Illegal or legalize


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  Posted on September 22, 2013 11:37
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I'm pretty sure it's been brought up but this debate is about whether or not weed should be legal or not.

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Also, i'd prefer your response if any be logical with your logical rather than "it's cool" or "it feels good" its just ignorance


I think it should stay illegal because even some of the good things about it can be bad too example being the possibility of more jobs there could be weed stores that could open up but people who depend on weed could get desperate an try to rob it an crime rate could skyrocket. Also if THC comes up in UA test people could still get the job but the con is they could end up trying to work high.


To explain a few con's.

Weed kills people's memory an functionality the more they smoke it meaning more stupid people and people don't tend to do much while high.

There could be separation of smoking/ non-smoking sections added to the already separated sections for buses, planes, and restaurants along with price increases because of the accommodations.

I'm sure they couldn't properly tax weed so in order to cover the untaxed weed taxes could be raised.


still here's a list of pro's and cons


Pro's

- Less teens will be in an out of juvy/jail

- Police will waste less time on weed(All kinds) possession cases and more on murder, gang, and rape cases.

- Possibility of more jobs/ job availability.

- Less psychological problems.


Con's

- Possible taxes increase.

- Seperation of transportation, restraunt seating and possible costs increase for sober people(People who are weed free).

- Possibility of food prices being raised.

- More stupid and lazy people.


My opinion is based on many of people i've met with weed addictions i'm never going to accept or believe any bullshit people try to feed me weed isn't just an herb it does harm and change people
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  Posted on September 22, 2013 11:41
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what 's weed ?
  Posted on September 22, 2013 11:46
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Weed should NOT be legal. It's a drug, who ever tries to say no it's not a drug and it's not addicting and it actually helps for the health is so freaking dumb. This summer school I attended few of my friends there smoke weed in their countries and I could see how addicting it is. They always tried to find spots to smoke even cigarettes while talking about how they need to smoke weed. One even found and bought weed and actually smoked! This is a world wide problem and the weed actually kills you. Maybe slower then stuff like LSD but it still kills you.
  Posted on September 22, 2013 11:50
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Weed should NOT be legal. It's a drug, who ever tries to say no it's not a drug and it's not addicting and it actually helps for the health is so freaking dumb. This summer school I attended few of my friends there smoke weed in their countries and I could see how addicting it is. They always tried to find spots to smoke even cigarettes while talking about how they need to smoke weed. One even found and bought weed and actually smoked! This is a world wide problem and the weed actually kills you. Maybe slower then stuff like LSD but it still kills you.
Just what vikson said , so true
  Posted on September 22, 2013 11:54
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Weed should NOT be legal. It's a drug, who ever tries to say no it's not a drug and it's not addicting and it actually helps for the health is so freaking dumb. This summer school I attended few of my friends there smoke weed in their countries and I could see how addicting it is. They always tried to find spots to smoke even cigarettes while talking about how they need to smoke weed. One even found and bought weed and actually smoked! This is a world wide problem and the weed actually kills you. Maybe slower then stuff like LSD but it still kills you.
It has claimed one of my friends lives already.
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  Posted on September 22, 2013 11:56
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vikson wrote:
Weed should NOT be legal. It's a drug, who ever tries to say no it's not a drug and it's not addicting and it actually helps for the health is so freaking dumb. This summer school I attended few of my friends there smoke weed in their countries and I could see how addicting it is. They always tried to find spots to smoke even cigarettes while talking about how they need to smoke weed. One even found and bought weed and actually smoked! This is a world wide problem and the weed actually kills you. Maybe slower then stuff like LSD but it still kills you.
It has claimed one of my friends lives already.
Sorry but what do you mean. If you mean that he smokes and still is alive, well do the people who take, for example, LSD don't live? They don't die instantly nor will the weed smokers. This doesn't proove it isn't getting your health in a bad condition.
  Posted on September 22, 2013 12:06
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jimmykidd wrote:
vikson wrote:
Weed should NOT be legal. It's a drug, who ever tries to say no it's not a drug and it's not addicting and it actually helps for the health is so freaking dumb. This summer school I attended few of my friends there smoke weed in their countries and I could see how addicting it is. They always tried to find spots to smoke even cigarettes while talking about how they need to smoke weed. One even found and bought weed and actually smoked! This is a world wide problem and the weed actually kills you. Maybe slower then stuff like LSD but it still kills you.
It has claimed one of my friends lives already.
Sorry but what do you mean. If you mean that he smokes and still is alive, well do the people who take, for example, LSD don't live? They don't die instantly nor will the weed smokers. This doesn't proove it isn't getting your health in a bad condition.
Weed killed one of my friends.
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  Posted on September 22, 2013 12:09
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jimmykidd wrote:
vikson wrote:
jimmykidd wrote:
NOTIt has claimed one of my friends lives already.
Sorry but what do you mean. If you mean that he smokes and still is alive, well do the people who take, for example, LSD don't live? They don't die instantly nor will the weed smokers. This doesn't proove it isn't getting your health in a bad condition.
Weed killed one of my friends.
Oh, really sorry I didn't understood what you mean. As weed is illegal less people will smoke it. When it becomes legal less people willl be in jail but there is a reason for them being in it since they are criminals. Also way more people will buy weed if it's legal which will ruin people entirly.
  Posted on September 22, 2013 12:16
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vikson wrote:
Weed should NOT be legal. It's a drug, who ever tries to say no it's not a drug and it's not addicting and it actually helps for the health is so freaking dumb. This summer school I attended few of my friends there smoke weed in their countries and I could see how addicting it is. They always tried to find spots to smoke even cigarettes while talking about how they need to smoke weed. One even found and bought weed and actually smoked! This is a world wide problem and the weed actually kills you. Maybe slower then stuff like LSD but it still kills you.

I'm gonna die of something eventually. I could live in a bubble free of germs and never take a risk and make it to150 but I'd never really be living, just dying slowly. I'd prefer to have fun and really live, if it chips that number from 150 years to 50 years then so be it but at least I enjoyed it. Making substances like weed illegal prohibits grown adults from making choices that affect only their own lives. Sure, put an age limit on it like alcohol, but after 18 years it's my body and I should be able to do what I want with it...

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  Posted on September 22, 2013 12:41
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vikson wrote:
Weed should NOT be legal. It's a drug, who ever tries to say no it's not a drug and it's not addicting and it actually helps for the health is so freaking dumb. This summer school I attended few of my friends there smoke weed in their countries and I could see how addicting it is. They always tried to find spots to smoke even cigarettes while talking about how they need to smoke weed. One even found and bought weed and actually smoked! This is a world wide problem and the weed actually kills you. Maybe slower then stuff like LSD but it still kills you.

I'm gonna die of something eventually. I could live in a bubble free of germs and never take a risk and make it to150 but I'd never really be living, just dying slowly. I'd prefer to have fun and really live, if it chips that number from 150 years to 50 years then so be it but at least I enjoyed it. Making substances like weed illegal prohibits grown adults from making choices that affect only their own lives. Sure, put an age limit on it like alcohol, but after 18 years it's my body and I should be able to do what I want with it...
Is it worth shortening your life for the "so much fun" from smoking weed? People are social beings so your choices considering your life doesn't affect only you. You can't ignore your close people like that. There are way better ways to have fun then taking drugs and die awfully.
  Posted on September 22, 2013 12:45
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Oh please, this question is not serious right?
Of course it's illegal! I don't see any open shops with a billboard saying 'WEED ON SALE, WOHOOO'. If caught, you are done. It's like a crime.
First leads to second, second to third, and third to hundreds and hundreds. If you are using it, stop. LIVE WHILE YOU CAN!
Use all that money to buy yourself something nice, don't go straight to death.
  Posted on September 22, 2013 12:50
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vikson wrote:
choppy wrote:
vikson wrote:
Weed should NOT be legal. It's a drug, who ever tries to say no it's not a drug and it's not addicting and it actually helps for the health is so freaking dumb. This summer school I attended few of my friends there smoke weed in their countries and I could see how addicting it is. They always tried to find spots to smoke even cigarettes while talking about how they need to smoke weed. One even found and bought weed and actually smoked! This is a world wide problem and the weed actually kills you. Maybe slower then stuff like LSD but it still kills you.

I'm gonna die of something eventually. I could live in a bubble free of germs and never take a risk and make it to150 but I'd never really be living, just dying slowly. I'd prefer to have fun and really live, if it chips that number from 150 years to 50 years then so be it but at least I enjoyed it. Making substances like weed illegal prohibits grown adults from making choices that affect only their own lives. Sure, put an age limit on it like alcohol, but after 18 years it's my body and I should be able to do what I want with it...
Is it worth shortening your life for the "so much fun" from smoking weed? People are social beings so your choices considering your life doesn't affect only you. You can't ignore your close people like that. There are way better ways to have fun then taking drugs and die awfully.
I'm not talking about only weed, although weed is a part of it. I'm talking about the concept of not allowing grown, reasonable people to do whatever they wish with their own bodies.
That's your opinion and it's fine. But it might be my opinion that motocross riders compete in a sport that's too dangerous and that's not good for their family, so should we ban people from riding motorbikes too? If that's how you feel about drugs then that's great, and don't take them, but I don't think you should be able to make that decision for somebody else. You're not above them.

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  Posted on September 22, 2013 12:59
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choppy wrote:
vikson wrote:
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NOT

I'm gonna die of something eventually. I could live in a bubble free of germs and never take a risk and make it to150 but I'd never really be living, just dying slowly. I'd prefer to have fun and really live, if it chips that number from 150 years to 50 years then so be it but at least I enjoyed it. Making substances like weed illegal prohibits grown adults from making choices that affect only their own lives. Sure, put an age limit on it like alcohol, but after 18 years it's my body and I should be able to do what I want with it...
Is it worth shortening your life for the "so much fun" from smoking weed? People are social beings so your choices considering your life doesn't affect only you. You can't ignore your close people like that. There are way better ways to have fun then taking drugs and die awfully.
I'm not talking about only weed, although weed is a part of it. I'm talking about the concept of not allowing grown, reasonable people to do whatever they wish with their own bodies.
That's your opinion and it's fine. But it might be my opinion that motocross riders compete in a sport that's too dangerous and that's not good for their family, so should we ban people from riding motorbikes too? If that's how you feel about drugs then that's great, and don't take them, but I don't think you should be able to make that decision for somebody else. You're not above them.
A grown person should follow the rules of his country. If he breaks them he will be sued. If he doesn't like the rules he can move to another country like some African *country* where he can feel free to kill him self miserable with drugs and die like a worm. I personally don't care about the grown ups since if someone has his way of thinking you can't change it. While I care about the children since their thinking can be changed easily, to the bad or good. They can be affected easily.

Why isn't motocross banned? It is dangerous, yes but it wont kill you. Can we say the same about drugs? Are they dangerous? Yes. Will they kill you for sure? Yes. Will motocross kill you? No. Yes there are a lot of fails in the system like the cigarettes. They will kill you but are legal, while they should be illegal.
  Posted on September 22, 2013 13:09
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I haven't done weed, nor do I plan on doing it, so I've never really understood how 'addicting' it can be. Same goes for smoking in general. This might seem like an ignorant point of view, but I've always thought that the major allure behind doing things like smoking, weed etc. is the fact that it IS illegal. There's the factor of rebellion and wanting to feel grown up. No offence, but I've always thought that part of the problem isn't the drug itself, it's the poor decisions people make.

I see Choppy's point and normally I'd agree with it, but in this instance, the consequences don't just lie with the ones who choose to do weed. There are hobo's on the street who spend their money on booze, rather than actually doing something about their situation. If weed is legalised, it's opening more opportunities for people like that (if it really is as addicting as people say it is), and money is gonna flow out of taxpayer pockets. Essentially, we're gonna be paying for their weed.
  Posted on September 22, 2013 13:10
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A grown person should follow the rules of his country. If he breaks them he will be sued. If he doesn't like the rules he can move to another country like some African *country* where he can feel free to kill him self miserable with drugs and die like a worm. I personally don't care about the grown ups since if someone has his way of thinking you can't change it. While I care about the children since their thinking can be changed easily, to the bad or good. They can be affected easily.
Firstly, we're talking about changing those rules. So discussion about following them currently is irrelevant. Secondly, yeah you're exactly right. Kids are impressionable and haven't fully developed reasoning capabilities yet, which is why you place an age limit so that they are only able to consume these things once they become an adult. I'm sure noones talking about giving marijuana to 12 year olds, so the fact that you said you don't care what grown up's do kind of supports the argument for legalization...
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Why isn't motocross banned? It is dangerous, yes but it wont kill you. Can we say the same about drugs? Are they dangerous? Yes. Will they kill you for sure? Yes. Will motocross kill you? No. Yes there are a lot of fails in the system like the cigarettes. They will kill you but are legal, while they should be illegal.
I'm faily sure landing on your neck from 30 feet will kill you most times...

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