Madara vs kid Goku


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  Posted on September 21, 2013 23:33
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kid Goku (with tail) -Vs- Madara (EMS, rinnegan)
Madara isn't Edo.
who wins?

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  Posted on September 21, 2013 23:37
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Wow, is this even a question? People over-hype the hell out of Dragonball and Dragonball z. Madara would win. It wouldn't even make sense if Goku won.
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  Posted on September 21, 2013 23:43
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jim12345678910 wrote:
Wow, is this even a question? People over-hype the hell out of Dragonball and Dragonball z. Madara would win. It wouldn't even make sense if Goku won.
well in most cases db/dbz characters are more powerful than Naruto characters hence why I used kid goku who isn't too OP. That being said, kid goku is still faster than Madara I think.
  Posted on September 21, 2013 23:44
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Madara wins no doubt.
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  Posted on September 22, 2013 00:10
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Madara won Goku in this phase .
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  Posted on September 22, 2013 00:14
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Madara wins, of course. If it was today's Goku, Goku won.
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  Posted on September 22, 2013 00:30
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Madara would wipe the floor with kid Goku,
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  Posted on September 22, 2013 00:36
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I think Madara would win.

Kid Goku is stronger than the average martial-arts fighter, however compared to ninjas, that isn't very much.

The average ninja can jump about 100 feet in the air, survive a fall from that same height, and bound about 50 feet in a single stride (as seen when they're jumping from tree to tree).

Only the top-tier martial artists (Tien, Yamcha, and a few other fighters who participated in the World Martial Arts tournament) can perform tasks similar or greater than this. That includes Goku too, but once again that's compared to an average ninja.

Now we're talking about Madara here, who is considerably stronger than the average ninja.

Now if there was a full moon, that would be an interesting battle. I'd like to see how Madara's Perfect Susanoo would hold up against a Great Ape.
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  Posted on September 22, 2013 00:38
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Kid Goku wins relatively quick, stop the madness!!
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  Posted on September 22, 2013 01:20
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Goku hides from Madara until Madara becomes an old man, filled with regret, waiting to die alone, and then either kills him - or let's him die of old age.

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  Posted on September 22, 2013 17:07
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EvanGrant wrote:
I think Madara would win.

Kid Goku is stronger than the average martial-arts fighter, however compared to ninjas, that isn't very much.

The average ninja can jump about 100 feet in the air, survive a fall from that same height, and bound about 50 feet in a single stride (as seen when they're jumping from tree to tree).

Only the top-tier martial artists (Tien, Yamcha, and a few other fighters who participated in the World Martial Arts tournament) can perform tasks similar or greater than this. That includes Goku too, but once again that's compared to an average ninja.

Now we're talking about Madara here, who is considerably stronger than the average ninja.

Now if there was a full moon, that would be an interesting battle. I'd like to see how Madara's Perfect Susanoo would hold up against a Great Ape.
but still, the average ninja doesn't move as fast as kid goku, in his battle with Jackie chun(master roshi) they were moving so fast they couldn't be seen, they literally had to explain to the people what moves they were doing afterwards, and how many ninjas do you know that can produce after images? His running speed as a kid was still most likely much greater than A's and Naruto's. The average ninja also doesn't have kid goku's strength. He may be a kid but even then he was tossing dinosaurs and punching mountains, and not to mention he has that dragon fist technique. And last but not least, the average ninja cannot produce enough energy or chakra to fire anything in the same vicinity or similar to a Kamehameha. And you cant really compare him to tien yamcha or krillan, he's a saiyan.

Madara is good. With his EMS and rinnegan I think this is an even fight.
  Posted on September 23, 2013 03:35
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scottyy wrote:
EvanGrant wrote:
I think Madara would win.

Kid Goku is stronger than the average martial-arts fighter, however compared to ninjas, that isn't very much.

The average ninja can jump about 100 feet in the air, survive a fall from that same height, and bound about 50 feet in a single stride (as seen when they're jumping from tree to tree).

Only the top-tier martial artists (Tien, Yamcha, and a few other fighters who participated in the World Martial Arts tournament) can perform tasks similar or greater than this. That includes Goku too, but once again that's compared to an average ninja.

Now we're talking about Madara here, who is considerably stronger than the average ninja.

Now if there was a full moon, that would be an interesting battle. I'd like to see how Madara's Perfect Susanoo would hold up against a Great Ape.
but still, the average ninja doesn't move as fast as kid goku, in his battle with Jackie chun(master roshi) they were moving so fast they couldn't be seen, they literally had to explain to the people what moves they were doing afterwards, and how many ninjas do you know that can produce after images? His running speed as a kid was still most likely much greater than A's and Naruto's. The average ninja also doesn't have kid goku's strength. He may be a kid but even then he was tossing dinosaurs and punching mountains, and not to mention he has that dragon fist technique. And last but not least, the average ninja cannot produce enough energy or chakra to fire anything in the same vicinity or similar to a Kamehameha. And you cant really compare him to tien yamcha or krillan, he's a saiyan.

Madara is good. With his EMS and rinnegan I think this is an even fight.
Are you being serious right now? :oh

Speed is not everything and his strength alone outmatches Goku's at this point. Along with that, Goku is a kid who is pretty dumb when it comes to planning things out.

Along with that, you've given Madara both EMS and Rinnegan, meaning that any physical contact near Madara can be dangerous, especially since Madara would also have Susano, the Rib Cage alone being strong enough to block Goku's attacks. Not to mention if Preta Path could absorb Ki.

Any long range attacks Goku knows at this point, such as the Kamehameha take time to prep, and in the time that he's charging that up, since he has no other distractions, he's not gonna give Goku time to do that, or it could easily be avoided with Speed, Substitution or a Clone.

Kid Goku may have had enough skills and such to take down his enemies at that point in time, but he's no where close to Madara level at this point.

Even during a full Moon, Madara's Perfect Susano is most likely larger than a Great Ape.

Madara wins this too easily, A Goku that would probably be closer to a match to Madara is the Teen Goku that fought Piccolo, because he's much more Resilient, Smarter and Stronger, but Madara bringing out Susano would probably still give him the fight
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  Posted on September 23, 2013 03:37
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The fuck? One of the most op characters in Naruto vs one of the weakest in DBZ?
Madara obviously, but this isn't even a battle.
  Posted on September 23, 2013 04:35
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scottyy wrote:
jim12345678910 wrote:
Wow, is this even a question? People over-hype the hell out of Dragonball and Dragonball z. Madara would win. It wouldn't even make sense if Goku won.
well in most cases db/dbz characters are more powerful than Naruto characters hence why I used kid goku who isn't too OP. That being said, kid goku is still faster than Madara I think.

Madara has Sharingan so speed wouldnt even be consider a threat and even if it was todays goku madara still would win.All tht training with king kai aint nothing to amaterasu or izanagi or even madaras genjutsu where its at the point where goku couldnt do nothing but look at maadaras victory.Hell he might now even get a chance to see it :amused
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  Posted on September 23, 2013 05:04
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scottyy wrote:
jim12345678910 wrote:
Wow, is this even a question? People over-hype the hell out of Dragonball and Dragonball z. Madara would win. It wouldn't even make sense if Goku won.
well in most cases db/dbz characters are more powerful than Naruto characters hence why I used kid goku who isn't too OP. That being said, kid goku is still faster than Madara I think.

Madara has Sharingan so speed wouldnt even be consider a threat and even if it was todays goku madara still would win.All tht training with king kai aint nothing to amaterasu or izanagi or even madaras genjutsu where its at the point where goku couldnt do nothing but look at maadaras victory.Hell he might now even get a chance to see it :amused

You're assuming that Madara can use Amaterasu. When was this stated that every Uchiha with a Mangekyou can use this? Sasuke can use it because he's always had Itachi's eyes. You cannot lump all techniques together just because of the bloodline. Obito even confirmed Susano'o was rare, meaning not every Uchiha who obtained Mangekyou had it. And also according to Itachi, Uchiha's have been getting the Mangekyou and stealing their siblings eyes for a while.

I am a huge Goku fanboy, but even I know that Kid Goku would lose. Goku could escape or get distance with his power pole and nimbus, but of course, it would only get him so far. Madara has much more fighting experience and smarts. Goku becomes a great fighter on the battlefield concerning strategy, but that only goes so far for him because he is still idiotic as a kid.

I've said it before in past debates, the Rinnegan's preta path cannot absorb Ki. When it comes to the anime they're used in, they're shown to be two different things. In DBZ, Ki can be collected from all around, and when someone in DBZ runs out of Ki, they do not die, but just become extremely fatigued. Whereas in Naruto, if you run out of chakra, you die. And you cannot gather it from natural sources like in DBZ. The closest example once can use against this is Natural Energy in Naruto. However, it is not the same as Chakra in Naruto as it's something that needs to be balanced WITH chakra, rather than being chakra itself. And yes, I am aware of the real life definitions of energy and chakra being one in the same, however, in the prospective universes being discussed, they are entirely different matters due to how Kishimoto and Toriyama have presented them.

Anyways, back to the debate. Goku could stand his own for a bit, but his major weakness is his hunger if we're talking about the Goku from the second battle with King Piccolo. As soon as he gets hungry, it's game over. I could see his "Penetrate!" attack working against Susano'o, and his Kamehameha as well given my above argument, but in the end, Madara's experience, array of attacks, and above-average intelligence gives him the win.
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