Natural selection


 Topic: Natural selection
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  Posted on April 26, 2013 21:40
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Do you think we are born with certain skills that the others doesn't have, and vice versa? There are some kind of obvious natural selections like man and female Where one's role is to produce, and the other's to plant the seed. One is stronger and one is more sensitive etc..
But the kind of natural selection I'm talking about is completely different. It revolves different races. Now, I don't want to provoke racism here, and if you're looking for one get the hell out. Give your honest opinions about the matter and try to be objective. Do you think there's natural selection between races as well, or just less opportunities for a certain group than the other? Let me give some examples.
We see a lot of basketball players who are black descent (probably more than 75%) and same happens to football (which are very physical sports)
Meanwhile in chess (very mental) we see that the best players make about more than 99% of white/asian descent.
Same goes for science/ingineering and other very mental activities where the most famous people are almost 100% white/asian. (Ex. Einstein, Napoleon, Ghenghis Khan, Steve Jobs etc..)
But when we talk about who's the best sprinter, or marathonist our mind doesn't go to Napoleon or Einstein, but at Husain Bolt, Asafa Powell, Justin Gatling and other African descent people.
Is mother nature racist, or it is natural selection?
  Posted on April 26, 2013 21:49
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It has nothing to do with race when you bring up those discussions.
It's more with the way they're at.

A city kid probably wouldn't want to pick up a book and study the game of chess. While someones who isolated and probably is expected to learn and "grow up" in his/her's peoples view. Will study hard and would probably like a mental game like chess.

Only "natural selection" there is, is the physical differences between men and women.
  Posted on April 26, 2013 22:48
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kisame9116 wrote:
It has nothing to do with race when you bring up those discussions.
It's more with the way they're at.

A city kid probably wouldn't want to pick up a book and study the game of chess. While someones who isolated and probably is expected to learn and "grow up" in his/her's peoples view. Will study hard and would probably like a mental game like chess.

Only "natural selection" there is, is the physical differences between men and women.
i also agree with this.Its not the about the race, its about the circumstances.

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  Posted on April 26, 2013 23:09
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I know some are born with more skills than others. I watched some video comparing wild animal traits to humans and they mentioned that if a regular person trained as often and did just as much work as Bolt, Bolt would still be faster because he was built for it. So i do think we have it in our genes to do some things better than others, kind of like personality traits.

Mother nature isn't racist, that was a foolish word to bring into this debate.
  Posted on April 26, 2013 23:19
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roxasmanny wrote:
I know some are born with more skills than others. I watched some video comparing wild animal traits to humans and they mentioned that if a regular person trained as often and did just as much work as Bolt, Bolt would still be faster because he was built for it. So i do think we have it in our genes to do some things better than others, kind of like personality traits.

Mother nature isn't racist, that was a foolish word to bring into this debate.

Perhaps if you were gifted with a higher IQ you would understand that when I said about mother nature as racist I didn't mean it in the same context as we normally use. But it's not your fault. Some people have to work harder to actually be able to understand.
  Posted on April 26, 2013 23:23
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Akkadian wrote:
roxasmanny wrote:
I know some are born with more skills than others. I watched some video comparing wild animal traits to humans and they mentioned that if a regular person trained as often and did just as much work as Bolt, Bolt would still be faster because he was built for it. So i do think we have it in our genes to do some things better than others, kind of like personality traits.

Mother nature isn't racist, that was a foolish word to bring into this debate.

Perhaps if you were gifted with a higher IQ you would understand that when I said about mother nature as racist I didn't mean it in the same context as we normally use. But it's not your fault. Some people have to work harder to actually be able to understand.

IQs aren't gifted.

They're gathered as you explore the workings of the world. So that wasn't the best way to undermine Roxxy.

@ Topic: Natural selection is based on circumstance and the pros and cons dictating ones situation.
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  Posted on April 26, 2013 23:34
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SilverTVerite wrote:
Akkadian wrote:
roxasmanny wrote:
I know some are born with more skills than others. I watched some video comparing wild animal traits to humans and they mentioned that if a regular person trained as often and did just as much work as Bolt, Bolt would still be faster because he was built for it. So i do think we have it in our genes to do some things better than others, kind of like personality traits.

Mother nature isn't racist, that was a foolish word to bring into this debate.

Perhaps if you were gifted with a higher IQ you would understand that when I said about mother nature as racist I didn't mean it in the same context as we normally use. But it's not your fault. Some people have to work harder to actually be able to understand.

IQs aren't gifted.

They're gathered as you explore the workings of the world. So that wasn't the best way to undermine Roxxy.

@ Topic: Natural selection is based on circumstance and the pros and cons dictating ones situation.

Well, like everything else in this universe (except speed of light probably) everything is relative. IQ is no different which means that you can be born with an exceptional understanding or learn it through experience.

@topic. I agree in that what you mentioned
  Posted on April 27, 2013 05:31
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Yeah, but you also have to factor in psychology, environmental, and social factors. Which would counter most of the statistics you brought up. I mean place a smart/physically capable person against huge negative factors, and even they would seem stupid/weak through the right perspective. Though if a person is skilled enough, they'll end up shining no matter what. Since those factors are all basically natural selection in a sence, you could call another race superior in certain aspects, through well natural selection.

You shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, though you are bound to be correct 60% (eh 70%) of the time if you go solely off of stereotypes. (so eh.) There will always going to be outliners though so don't get too caught up on it.

And yes, nature is racist. i remember hearing something similar to that from the radio on san andreas, like "nature hates poor people". (I think they said something about trailer parks always getting fucked up by tornadoes.) XD
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