"Almost"!? Hol' up (Edo Tensei discussion)


 Topic: "Almost"!? Hol' up (Edo Tensei discussion)
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  Posted on March 22, 2013 01:18
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http://manga.animea.net/naruto-chapter-620-page-10.html

Tobirama states that the Hokages were brought back with almost their full power. So, Edos can be brought back with less power than they originally had? That would explain why Hiruzen was able to hold his own against Hashirama and Tobirama at the same time...

What do you think? And why didn't anyone else mention this?
  Posted on March 22, 2013 01:20
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Because his brother created the jutsu and they know it.
  Posted on March 22, 2013 01:30
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It's all thanks to Kabuto, who perfected ET, dat smart ass snake nigga.

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  Posted on March 22, 2013 01:31
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  Posted on March 22, 2013 01:32
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I think it's because at that time Orochimaru didn't have enough strength to bring them at full power. But now Orochimaru is fused with Hashirama's cells (from the Zetsu he absorbed) and his Edo Tensei technique and binding is much stronger. At least that's what I think.
  Posted on March 22, 2013 01:33
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Akkadian wrote:
I think it's because at that time Orochimaru didn't have enough strength to bring them at full power. But now Orochimaru is fused with Hashirama's cells (from the Zetsu he absorbed) and his Edo Tensei technique and binding is much stronger. At least that's what I think.

Yup pretty sure that's why as well. I think they stated somewhere the kages Oro summoned against the third were only at 10 percent power.
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  Posted on March 22, 2013 02:10
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I been saying this shit for ages.
Ninjas be dick riding Hiruzen's old ass though.

The reason is simple Orochimaru didn't have the chakra needed to execute the Edo Tensei. When he did it this time not only did he take his chakra back from Kabuto he also took some of Kabuto's chakra itself. The combination of the 2 giving him enough for the Edo Tensei. When Kabuto did it Orochimaru planned that as an experiment he wanted to see if Kabuto could pull it off and needless to say he did. Once Orochimaru had that in mind he was able to put the pieces together that it's not because Kabuto is stronger or Smarter, it's because at that time Kabtuo had more Chakra that Orochimaru did. So that being the only missing piece of the puzzle Orochimaru stole Kabuto's chakra and yeah.
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  Posted on March 22, 2013 02:43
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Maybe because it was right out stated that no one mentioned it

But the real question is what percentage they are at? I think the edos are somewhere below 90%. I say this cause madara preferred to be brought back by Pain (being mortal again) as suppose to edo method (unlimited chakra and undetectable body)
  Posted on March 22, 2013 03:02
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I've heard it mentioned before in the ol' manga discussion section! But yeah, it makes plenty sense that the amount of power they get is based on the amount of chakra and control the wielder has.
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  Posted on March 22, 2013 20:08
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TheSkyIsMyDomain wrote:
Maybe because it was right out stated that no one mentioned it

But the real question is what percentage they are at? I think the edos are somewhere below 90%. I say this cause madara preferred to be brought back by Pain (being mortal again) as suppose to edo method (unlimited chakra and undetectable body)
It wasn't stated until this chapter and everyone still assumes that Edo Tenseis automatically have full power... Nice try, though

@topic: The reason for this thread was to point out that what we saw of the Edo Tensei characters may not have been their full potential. That's the discussion I wanted to start. To be completely honest, I doubt anyone in the Shinobi Army could have lasted seconds against the 3rd Raikage + 2nd Mizukage. When I saw them holding their own against the Edo Kages, I knew that they weren't at their full power.
  Posted on March 22, 2013 20:31
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Its pretty simple though, Oro's edo tensei wasnt perfected to the point it is now. It still doesnt take away any credit for Hiruzen (imo) to hold his own vs 2 hokages at what like 20/30% of their power while being 72 of age orso + fighting Oro in the battle aswell. 3 vs 1, regarding of the weakened state of the hokages, still that state of the hokages would easily beat alot of other ninja's at jounin/sannin level.

I truly believe Hiruzen in his prime was 1 badass motherfucking shinobi who also inherited the will of fire that was passed down from Shodai and Nidaime.
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  Posted on March 22, 2013 22:47
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Yondaime wrote:
Its pretty simple though, Oro's edo tensei wasnt perfected to the point it is now. It still doesnt take away any credit for Hiruzen (imo) to hold his own vs 2 hokages at what like 20/30% of their power while being 72 of age orso + fighting Oro in the battle aswell. 3 vs 1, regarding of the weakened state of the hokages, still that state of the hokages would easily beat alot of other ninja's at jounin/sannin level.

I truly believe Hiruzen in his prime was 1 badass motherfucking shinobi who also inherited the will of fire that was passed down from Shodai and Nidaime.
So you thinking Hiruzen in his prime > everyone else?
  Posted on March 23, 2013 11:02
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Nah, Im not saying that, but Im saying its imo not fair to take away credit from Hiruzen
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  Posted on March 23, 2013 19:05
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TheSkyIsMyDomain wrote:
Maybe because it was right out stated that no one mentioned it

But the real question is what percentage they are at? I think the edos are somewhere below 90%. I say this cause madara preferred to be brought back by Pain (being mortal again) as suppose to edo method (unlimited chakra and undetectable body)

Madara wanted to be brought back by the Rinne Tensei because he needs to be a living being in order to become the 10 tails jinchuriki. Also where the hell are you getting undetectable body from?

Also I really don't think having more chakara makes the people you revive with edo tensei any stronger. I could have sworn it was stated somewhere that Kabuto simply made the jutsu better through research, but that could have just been a discussion here.
  Posted on March 23, 2013 19:08
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blla blla blla just wait till the manga tells you