Naruto Plotholes


 Topic: Naruto Plotholes
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Poll: Who is Tobi, excluding Obito?
24 vote(s) since August 15, 2012 14:38
Kagami Uchiha (8) (33%)
Fugaku Uchiha (0) (0%)
Izuna Uchiha (6) (25%)
Unknown Uchiha Member (3) (13%)
A non-Uchiha Shinobi (4) (17%)
Sasuke Uchiha from the future :)) (3) (13%)
  Posted on August 15, 2012 14:38
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This prediction is not mine. I found it here and I wanted to share it with you. I hope it will answer many of your questions. Even though it's long, it's worth reading.

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I had enough with Tobi=Obito...
Tobi not Obito plotholes (not mine):


Plothole Number 1: Tobi’s Power Level (chapters 500-504).
There is no way Obito could turn into an alpha dog shinobi who mastered S/T phasing and teleportation within a 1-2 year time frame. At 15 years old? No way... There is also no way Obito would know how to extract the Kyuubi, hypnotize it, control it like a puppet, and then summon it wherever the hell he wants to. And all of this is supposed to have happened 1-2 years after Obito supposedly died? That’s just not feasible.

Plothole Number 2: Personality U-turn (chapter 241 page 19).
"Of course those in the ninja world who break the rules and regulations are called trash... but those who don’t care about their companions are even worse than trash." Will of Fire talk from Obito. It makes no sense for.
him to suddenly manifest this unwavering vendetta against Konoha unless Tobi is just using Obito’s body as a vessel, in which case, Tobi isn’t really Obito anyway because his soul and spirit have nothing to do with it.

Plothole Number 3: Kushina Quote (chapter 501 page 7).
"Do you have ANY idea how long I’ve waited for this moment?" It’s a complete contradiction for Obito to say something like that when, hypothetically, he wouldn’t have been alive long enough to make that type of comment because Obito would have been 15 years old if he fought Minato. Tobi has probably had to wait DECADES for the opportunity to extract the Kyuubi from its host.

Plothole Number 4: Kyuubi recognised Tobi (chapter 501 page 8).
The Kyuubi actually recognises Tobi and possibly knows who he is. If THAT doesn’t convince you, nothing will. The Kyuubi made a direct transfer from being sealed into Mito to being sealed into Kushina, so there is a fundamental contradiction for the Kyuubi to recognise anyone in the outside world when it was sealed for all that time. If the Kyuubi actually recognised Tobi, it means Tobi has to be someone who was alive during Hashirama/Madara’s generation.

Plothole Number 5: Tobi is too tall (chapter 503 page 9).
Tobi was shown to be adult sized when he fought Minato, chapter 503 page 5. But on page 9, Kakashi, Gai, Asuma and Kurenai are all shown to be much shorter as they are going through adolescence. Obito would have been around that size and is therefore too short to be Tobi.

Plothole Number 6: Minato would’ve figured it out (chapter 500-504).
If Tobi was really Obito, then Minato would have figured it out when they were fighting each other. Obito was Minato’s own student and would have recognised his chakra, but he didn’t.

Plothole Number 7: This is HIS doing (chapter 560 page 2).
"This is HIS doing." That means Madara knows exactly who Tobi is, but there is no way Madara could have worked with Obito because Madara had died already. We know this because by the time Nagato gets Madara's Rinnegan from Tobi, Madara is officially dead - "I awakened these eyes shortly before my death." (chapter 560 page 15). This is important because Nagato is older than Minato, and Minato is older than Obito.

Plothole Number 8: Hashirama Comparison (chapter 462 page 14).
Tobi says to Naruto "I can see the first Hokage in you." To make that type of comparison Tobi must have known what Hashirama was like as a person. Problem is, Hashirama was dead before Obito was born.

Plothole Number 9: During Our Battle (chapter 512 page 9).
"This is something I grew from living tissue I stole from him during our battle." Kabuto already revealed the Madara coffin so there was no reason for Tobi to keep lying. So if Tobi actually had a fight with Hashirama there is no way he could be Obito.

Plothole Number 10: Too Much Knowledge.
It is impossible for Obito to know so much about the bloody history between the Senju clan and the Uchiha clan before Konoha was even established as a shinobi village. Tobi has to be someone from that generation. It is also impossible for Obito to know so much about Rikudou Sennin, his sons, the Bijuu and the Juubi.

THE BIGGEST PLOTHOLE OF THEM ALL.

Plothole Number 11: Nagato is much older than Obito.

Why is this important? Because Tobi GAVE Nagato the Rinnegan. In other words, it is impossible for Obito to have given kid Nagato the Rinnegan because Obito is much younger than Nagato.

Rest in peace, Obito-kun...
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  Posted on August 15, 2012 14:40
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Edit : Finally some took the time to find out good eveidence
But every1 knows the ramen dude is Tobi
or kagimi Uchiha
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  Posted on August 15, 2012 15:07
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All along it was a stupid idea for tobi to be obito
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  Posted on August 15, 2012 15:15
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Zukeo wrote:
All along it was a stupid idea for tobi to be obito
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  Posted on August 15, 2012 15:22
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Zukeo wrote:
All along it was a stupid idea for tobi to be obito
I know, but some people make wrong assumptions. They jump to conclusions like Tobi is Obito, but they don't consider Obito's age.
Kishi-sensei mentioned in his last interview that he will introduce new characters.
I suppose Tobi is Izuna. After he gave his eyes to Madara, he waited for the perfect moment to get a Sharingan (from Obito), then he took the other one from a random Uchiha during the massacre.
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  Posted on August 15, 2012 15:31
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This is the best thing I've ever read in my life, ever.
Ohhh, the feels. Isn't it sad? You will be missed NB. Maybe we'll meet up with eachother again someday. Until then, farewell, and goodbye.
  Posted on August 15, 2012 16:22
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It's useless showing this to Obito fans. :oh
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  Posted on August 15, 2012 21:08
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rui1995 wrote:
It's useless showing this to Obito fans. :oh

This, even if you sticky this topic, there will be again Tobi = Obito topics, anyway ty for share, someone went hard on this theory, and killed it totally.
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  Posted on August 16, 2012 02:07
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I appreciate you, SandButterFly, for giving us this information. With that said, the Tobi = Obito debate can finally be put to rest.
One of the few remaining original (2006) Naruto-Board veterans.
  Posted on August 16, 2012 10:10
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I agree with SHERDDER... Tobi is Ichiraku :noworry
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  Posted on August 16, 2012 10:13
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i think he is either obito or someone who stole obito's eye developed a technique same as kakashi and he stole his other sharringan from another uchiha member
  Posted on August 16, 2012 18:39
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In the latest manga, it is indeed confirmed that Tobis eye is Obitos. He stole it. Probably had to remake it with healing jutsu because it had been crushed.
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  Posted on August 17, 2012 06:49
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Topic moved to Konoha Park.
  Posted on August 28, 2012 00:11
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Instead of speculating and coming up with proofs using logic, which has been proven by other topics like this to have no place in manga, just sit back, relax, watch the end of the fourth shinobi war, and finally find out that Tobi is Goku
Final move to defeat Tobi-Sexysengan :teeth
  Posted on September 1, 2012 20:20
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I think this has been soundly solved...