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Posted on September 17, 2007 03:41

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oh, sorry. for the first part, you put 7/64 for the two chakra probability when it's actually 9/64 when you want to know the probability for getting exactly one chakra. When you put the probability for getting at least one chakra, it's 10/64. If you want proof, you should check your list (I didn't so I don't know if it's correct, but it probably is).

When at least 1 is not 10/64. just combinations taht start with say TAi makes up 1/4 of all the combinations which is 16.

For the 2 specific chakra of same type i recounted ur rite i screwd up. Its 10/64 lol

dont kno wut i was thinking

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Posted on September 18, 2007 15:34

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Posted on September 18, 2007 16:00

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nice thanks for the tips

Posted on September 18, 2007 18:01

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Aren't the odds of 2 specific different chakra exactly the same as two specific chakra of the same type? It's not like Chakra are like cards, where drawing one leaves you less likely to draw another one. It's more like rolling dice, according to "the basics."

If you roll a 6 sided die, and get a "1" then pick it up and roll it up again. It isn't any less likely that you'll get another "1" than a different specific number. Like "6."

When I think about my chakra draws. I generally put it as an 8 sided die(or 4, which I don't think is possible.) With 2 sides in each of the four colors. So, if I need say... A Nin or a Tai to win. That's obviously a coinflip times the number of characters(plus chakra drained/gained and minus the chakra they can drain) I have left to get say... a single heads. Since half the sides of the die cover the chakra I need.

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Posted on September 19, 2007 02:04

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No its differnt think if it this way: 2 6 sided dice

odds of getting 12 is to 6s
odds of getting 11 is 5-6 or 6-5 making 11 more likely to be rolled then 12

Because you can get alot more combinations from 6-5 and 5-6
then just 6-6

If u need confirmations you could away refer to second post to see all the combinations and cout your self

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Posted on September 19, 2007 07:39

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ttt ttn tnt ntt ttg tgt gtt ttb tbt btt tnn ntn nnt tgg gtg ggt bbt btb tbb tng tgn ntg gtn gnt ngt tnb tbn btn ntb nbt bnt tbg tgb gtb btg bgt gbt

nnn nng ngn gnn nnb nbn bnn ngg gng ggn bbn bnb nbb ngb nbg bng gnb ngb gnb

ggg ggb gbg bgg gbb bgb bbg

bbb

that's the list of all the possible chakra combinations (64 ways). The way you understood it is that you want to know the chances of getting at least one chakra, for example. then there are

ttt ttn tnt ntt ttg tgt gtt ttb tbt btt tnn ntn nnt tgg gtg ggt bbt btb tbb tng tgn ntg gtn gnt ngt tnb tbn btn ntb nbt bnt tbg tgb gtb btg bgt gbt

ways in which you can receive chakra with one tai in them (37 ways). so that's 37/64 = 57% (decimals dropped).

That list consists of the chances of getting exactly one chakra (27 ways):

tnn ntn nnt tgg gtg ggt bbt btb tbb tng tgn ntg gtn gnt ngt tnb tbn btn ntb nbt bnt tbg tgb gtb btg bgt gbt

exactly two chakra(9 ways):

ttn tnt ntt ttg tgt gtt ttb tbt btt

and exactly three chakra(1 chakra):

ttt

hope this clears it out. ^^

@Hanabi No they're not because when you think about it, isn't it logical that when you draw a ball from a box with four colors of balls, you get different colors than getting the same colors, assuming you put back the ball after every draw? And with dice, yes, the chance may be the same. But, one you get a one, can you really get another one exactly? Isn't it easier to get two different numbers?

EDIT: I see you changed it, Pearz. lol

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Posted on September 19, 2007 11:13

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I get it now. I should've realised this from all the "Fill or Bust" I played when I was little. I already knew that repeating the same number 6 times happens much less often than getting a straight. (1-6). Sorry. I get it now, though.

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Posted on September 19, 2007 17:37

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@chaos u counted 9 ways for 2 specfic chakra but left 1 out (tai tai tai)

so theirs 10 combinations

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Posted on September 21, 2007 11:41

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@ pearz acttually, this is the correct and exact calculation you'll find using any statistic book. This is because there are only 9 ways where you can get exactly two tai. If you include the three tai, then that's to get at least two tai already.

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Posted on September 21, 2007 18:02

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well i obviously said at least thats why 1 chakra has 37 combinations

if specfic 2 only then that would be useless to some people who cant add

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Posted on September 23, 2007 03:36

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Sheesh.. does no one ever go here?

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Posted on September 23, 2007 06:25

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Sheesh.. does no one ever go here?

I can tell you who didnt go mee lol

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Posted on September 23, 2007 06:56

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@luapman lolz actually, what she posted is synonymous to yours. Both are correct, but she included the chance to get only 2 nin and the sort.. lolz

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Posted on September 25, 2007 01:35

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This is the formula for different number of combos for any number for chakka.

4 to the power of number of chakka

u should try it... it works

Posted on September 27, 2007 17:05

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crap. I just wrote a very long reply to this thread and when I clicked on post it just reloaded the page. WTF?

Oh well wat I was trying to say in that post(dam technology). Is that with this statistical knowledge you can do two useful things. First, predict to a certain extent the chakra you will get on your next turn and second, predict as well the most likely chakra your opponent will get on his turn and be able to react accordingly.

Sample: You have Lee, you get 1 green along with two other chakra, good move to immediately use 5 gates since you have 37/64 = 57.81% chance of getting green chakra on the next turn.

Sample2: You have Gaara, you get 1 blue along with two other chakra, bad move to immediately use Dessert Coffin, since you only have 10/64 = 15.63% chance of getting 2 blue chakra on your next turn for DG.

Sample3: Your opponent has Shikamaru, he has activated Meditation on the first turn. No need to be so worried since he only has 14/64 = 28.13% chance of getting the white and red for shadow bind on his next turn.

Damn, I wished I saved my first post.

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