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Posted on January 20, 2010 14:31

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#1021

Abeed wrote:

@Blind E - Doesn't the skill get completely reflected? Won't the reflected Kakashi be stunned by the reflected nin dogs anyway?

Well, I don't know if that's supposed to happen, but no.

Posted on January 20, 2010 14:50

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#1022

oreacharound wrote:

yumeku wrote:

shino(s)
i suggest he will have some little destructible defense with the damage reduction
to compensate his low damage
most characters at jounin and up are piercing
his reduction wouldnt be much of use

I don't think that would be a good idea at all no offense.Shino (S) seems tough already,that character does not need any DD imo lol.

but most characters at his level have peircing attacks... :(
well you win..,

he has a 15-30 damage which requires a specific chakra and prep
how about his damage.., is it possible to be 20(normal) -40 (prep)

or 15-30 but effects last two turns

or 15-30 but skill stacks by 5 dmg at 40 dmg limit

can the counter cooldown be 1 turn lesser , or even its 3 cooldown just use 1 blood

why:

kurenai has a 3 turn cooldown but has a lasting stun effect for only 1 gen and double mental damage

gai and lee has counter has 2 turn cooldown at 30 damage for only 1 tai

but shino(s)has 3 turn cooldown at 1 blood and one random at 20 damage

...anyway those are just suggestions .. ^_^

Posted on January 20, 2010 15:35

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yumeku wrote:

oreacharound wrote:

yumeku wrote:

I don't think that would be a good idea at all no offense.Shino (S) seems tough already,that character does not need any DD imo lol.

I won't argue the Kurenai thing I hate the character.Shino(S) seems to be fine percentage wise and when I see him against me in my ingame I always cringe because he gives me fits lol zzz.I'm against him having DD but dealing more damage I'm fine with I suppose although 40 may be a bit much.

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Posted on January 20, 2010 17:13

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#1024

@yumeku-
shino's counter is something have to use very wisely... his gaining of blood is very useul, and makes it like a counter which cost a random
and his skill does decent damage with a good effect
his prep needs a small change though

@abeed- i actually think he is versatile enough considering his skillset as a whole
also, if his skills support chakra skills. it wont make him anymore versatile due to the clash
the best way is to make him slower

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Posted on January 20, 2010 17:30

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@ninjutsu's kabuto idea...i love it.

Also, i'm just gonna be a flat out reformist here and declare a complete rework to kakashi :embarressed

... it's not that he sucks ( i think he's a great creation) it's just that people use him for the instant kill only. And that's never fun.

i mean. he never rly "stuns" the opponent. i'm sure more than half of N-A could care less. It's just a "prep." There's also a lot of ppl that hate the high 50 damage thing. And you guys are saying that his sharingan is op.

WELLLLLL- i say we make kakashi kin-like :embarressed

Raikiri can cost 1 tai (or 1 tai 1 random)
Nin-dogs will be 1 nin
Sharingan 1 blood.

Sharingan alone will give kakashi 20 DD for one turn.
Raikiri then sharingan will counter the skill
Nin-Dogs then sharingan will reflect the skill.

I honestly don't know yet. DONT JUDGE ME! i'm tired =P. There's just too much about kakashi ppl hate. Which is y i ended up thinking about this. We can also be able to add some new effects to the game.

Uhmm, at the arrogant person under me, i hope u realize that i did not in any way say sharingan was unpredictable...i don't even mention anything that says i lose to him. There's a line for saying stuff like that. You no where near it. just because i want a radical change doesn't mean i lose to the character. Kakashi's in dire circumstances. Also, just to let u know, i love kakashi and i use him a lot. I wouldn't want to change him, but he's solely used for his instant-kill. His sharingan is rly (for most ppl) only used in a 1 v 1 situation.

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Posted on January 20, 2010 18:16

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#1026

nsfate18 wrote:

@ninjutsu's kabuto idea...i love it.

Also, i'm just gonna be a flat out reformist here and declare a complete rework to kakashi :embarressed

You ant to rework Kakashi because you lose when opponents use him? SOUNDS GREAT not really though.

Kakashi is fine imo. His Sharingan is all but unpredictable. By the time you have kakashi predicting counters becomes a HUGE factor. So you shouldn't have problems stopping it.

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Posted on January 20, 2010 18:28

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#1027

NSfate is right about people mostly using Kakashi as an "instant" kill character. If Kakashi deals damage with his Nin-Dogs then he shouldn't deal 100 damage with Raikiri after nin-digs is used. Perhaps he could do piercing damage during nin-dogs if his base Raikiri damage stays at 50 or maybe some small damage boost+piercing damage if his base bases is lowered.

Posted on January 20, 2010 19:44

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#1028

Dragonmaninferno wrote:

I think the opposite. 50 piercing at first (Yesh, 50 piercing, Kidoumaru does the same for two specific too.)
And 100 at Nin Dogs. That way it'd become less OP.

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- Make it deal 15 damage with a 2 turn cooldown;
- Simple solution: Increase the cooldown by 1;
- Make it deal piercing damage, again, for 2 turns for cooldown.

I guess that the most complicated rework would be the second, since it would be such a nerf.

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Posted on January 20, 2010 19:44

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lulz.. SiB let me know it is fixed since I had gone to bed. GT was the one who fixed it... :rolleyes

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Posted on January 20, 2010 19:45

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#1030

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lulz.. SiB let me know it is fixed since I had gone to bed. GT was the one who fixed it... :rolleyes

lolz. I noticed that earlier. It was a fast fixing :P

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Posted on January 20, 2010 19:46

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#1031

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lulz.. SiB let me know it is fixed since I had gone to bed. GT was the one who fixed it... :rolleyes

the glitch on kakashi S.. is still going.. :notrust

when u try to copy a jutsu.. its disconect the opponent.

Posted on January 20, 2010 19:46

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#1032

lss_ryu wrote:

Luapman wrote:

lulz.. SiB let me know it is fixed since I had gone to bed. GT was the one who fixed it... :rolleyes

the glitch on kakashi S.. is still going.. :notrust

wat is the glitch
:oh

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Posted on January 20, 2010 19:47

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#1033

impactraouf wrote:

lss_ryu wrote:

Luapman wrote:

lulz.. SiB let me know it is fixed since I had gone to bed. GT was the one who fixed it... :rolleyes

the glitch on kakashi S.. is still going.. :notrust

wat is the glitch
:oh

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Posted on January 20, 2010 19:48

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try using.. Jutsu Imitation

Posted on January 20, 2010 19:49

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#1035

waterone wrote:

Dragonmaninferno wrote:

Nah, Naruto (S) is annoying but you just balanced the annoying by adding a CD and extra damage. I just agree with the Cooldown, Naruto (S) already does 10 damage to all enemies

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