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Posted on December 29, 2009 22:26

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#256

Akatsunara wrote:

Has anyone notice that Sasori is really underpowered ?

2 randoms for 5 afliction every turn. Even Shizune needs less chakra to have stronger afliction.

What I suggest:
- Changing the move's cost to 1 random
or
- Boosting the skill's damage for example 7/8 afliction.

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Sasori's first stage attack does 10 damage and then 5 affliction damage until removed/opponent is dead for 2 random. Infinite affliction is very powerful. He's actually a very balanced character that IMO received too many nerfs just because people didn't know how to deal with him.

Posted on December 30, 2009 00:34

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#257

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Talking About Haku,Haku Is Overpowered With The Demonic Ice Miror :S 10 Damage To All For 3 Turns? 50 Detructible Defense? He Cannot Be Stunned? Acupunture Ignores Invulnability? And The Another Attack That I Dont Remember Does 35 Piercing Damage? C'mon Haku Is The Perfect Character o.O

Now,About Naruto,I Think That The Shadow Clones,The Defense Has To Be Destructible Defense,Some Like 40 o 50 Destructible Defense,Like In Anime,After Smashing The Clones,The Clones Disapear:blink

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Posted on December 30, 2009 01:24

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#258

Akatsunara wrote:

maybe 2 random 10 afliction

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Posted on December 30, 2009 03:29

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#259

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sasori isnt under powerd, cause his last permantly while shizune does 24 damage alone over 3 turns, sasori does 25 damage alone over 4 turns ( i think i added that right). But his is also capable of doing 100 damage over 18 turns if that person doesnt have someone to remove enemy effects. Now i do realize that most games dont last 18 turns, but u can also think of the affliction as a boost. I cant tell you how many times i have used someone along the lines of asuma s and eneded up with a character that has 36 health, and then finding next turn that ausma ship has died. sasori's 5 affliciton to every enemy solves this problem.
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Posted on December 30, 2009 04:03

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#260

Nerfs and Boosts

Kiba:
His Double Headed Wolf is slightly OP. The damage reduction should be 20-25. And his Double Headed Wolf deals 15 damage every turn for 3 turns? 10 Damage will be better.

Hinata:
Her Gentle Fist is UP compared to Neji's, add 5 damage to it. And steal or remove 1 chakra every turn if Byakugan is used

Lee:
Drunken Fist Style CD should be about 4 or 5. People use it over and over again.

Kankuro: Black Secret Machine One Shot is better if damage was 50. And if that change happen, change CD to 1.

Temari:
Summoning Quick Beheading Dance is still slightly OP. Maybe 25 or 30 damage to all enemies and Termari is invulnerable to Physical skills for 1 turn.It's OP and easy to win from a cheap AoE team. And Dust Wind is OP. The reduced percentage of the enemies attack should be lowered to 30-40 percent.

Zaku:
This AoE is Mega OP. Extreme Air Cutter should be 35 damage to all enemies.

Haku:
OP with Demonic Ice Mirrors. The skill should end if the DD is destroyed.

Iruka:
Sealed Bombs Square Formation is OP. The damage if that enemy uses a skill should be 30 or 25, and CD should be 3 or 4.

Kabuto:
Mystical Palm Technique should be boosted to 25 or 30 damage. If 30 damage, add a random chakra.

Kakashi
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Posted on December 30, 2009 05:49

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#261

lilscoot88 wrote:

To your suggestions;

-Kiba slightly OP yes, 20dmg reduction and 10 dmg over 3 turns is perfect.

-Hinata isn't underpowered at all. She removes 2 chakra and her prep gives her reduction. What more? Oh yea forgot her AoE gives ally reduction... I don't call that UP. :huh

-Completely agree on Lee.

-Kankuro should deal 50 dmg without a cooldown. DD can be set down to 15.

-Temari is better than before and not that annoying anymore.

-Zaku, hahaha. How is he extremely overpowered. He can be stunned out and you can invul. Don't see the Overpowerness on him.

-Agreeing on Haku.

-Iruka is fine. Maybe 30 piercing damage but the cooldown is ok how it is.

-Kabuto isn't a alone walker, he is beeing used as a support dmg character.

-Kakashi OP? He had already 2 sucky nerfs isn't that enough? He doesnt instant anymore, he doesn't deal 55 damage. I think that's enough.

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As for;

Kankuro (S), 1 Cooldown should be removed from Sanshouo Shield.
Aoba (S)'s Crow Assault and Murder of Crows should be action instead of control since it's removed when you invul.
Sakura, maybe do the Inner Sakura last 4 rounds so it can't be spammed?

Posted on December 30, 2009 07:17

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#262

To your suggestions;

- Kiba - Reducing the reduction a little could be fine but I think that the damage is good. I've actually had no troubles fighting him.

- Hinata is perfect.

- I think that Luap accepted suggestions for complete reworks on him in the submission topic.

- Kankuro was set to 45 to stop the 2 * 50 combos. Like with Kakashi or two following turn of attacks with Kankuro.

- I haven't played the new Temari so i don't know

- Zaku is fine

- Reducing Haku in that way will make him underpowered. Just remove the ignore stuns part and make it reduce by one turn or "The enemy who uses a stun skill on Haku in mirrors take 15 damage"

Iruka Kabuto and Kakashi are fine. Kakakshi keep getting nerf and Lee boosts due to noobs keeping playing them

I agree on Bahadir suggestions about Sakura and Aoba. I haven't play much of Kankuro (S) to talk about that.

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Posted on December 30, 2009 07:25

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#263

Xelian wrote:

In regards to Haku, removing the "Ignores Stuns part" would require Acupuncture to be reworked, possible into a Instant skill during Demonic Ice Mirrors.
Give it time, there weren't many good teams for Haku before, and I hardly believe that they'll just magically turn up now.
Remember, Haku may be OP during Demonic Ice Mirrors, but the following chars are also beast after a prep or 2:
Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke, Kiba, Hinata, Chouji, Shikamaru, Shino, Lee, Tenten, Kankuro, Dosu, Asuma, Shodai, Nidaime, Sai (S), Gai (S), Chouji (S), Hinata (S), Kiba (S), Gaara (S), 4 tails (S), Nii (S), KBD (S), Deidara (S), Hidan (S), Sasori (S).

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Posted on December 30, 2009 07:42

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#264

lilscoot88 wrote:

Kiba is fine
if anything hinata is the most balanced right now
lee could use a change but im not sure what for though
kankuro like xelian said he whould be abused if BMOS did 50 damage
i agree with Bahadir on temari
LOL zaku amazingly powerful yeah right there are so many ways you can off him without getting hurt
Haku i am at odds with this one so ill pass on that
Iruka is fine just dont let him use SBSF
kabuto as stated above he is only as good as the people he is with
kakashi is balanced

My suggestions
sakura maybe give KO punch a 1 turn cooldown during prep
maybe lower kidoumarus summon by 1 turn
maybe lower cursed seal sasukes corrupt chidori to 50 piercing damage
aoba sort of needs a boost
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Posted on December 30, 2009 08:22

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kabuto as stated above he is only as good as the people he is with

Yeah, I find this to be very poor reasoning. You know, this is a team game, and just because a char doesn't deal high damage doesn't mean that they can't be overpowered. Kabuto can make the chars he is with too good. Kabuto by himself isn't really that bad either. 20 piercing damage for 1 nin is slightly above average, and he has a strong, cheap heal.

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Posted on December 30, 2009 09:30

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#266

Kiba is OP in the sense of his 2 headed wolf,20 DR and 10 aoe dmg sounds good to me for he is pretty much used for aoe and spike, which i think also could use a nerf when people rank up higher.

Hinata is ok

Zaku is ony OP because he isn't used yet again out of aoe teams. i think heshould be nerfed so maybe peole will not see him good for aoe anymore.

Lee,well.....

Termari, i do think she is still kinda OP i think , lik what many have said, ake her more defensive.

Kabuto is an OP supposrt like iruka who i think both need a nerf.

Kakashi i think he is fine but could use something new.
And i really think gaara needs a full on rework, new skills, new pics,new names.
i find him an worhtless charecter i'm just not felling the insta kill thing.

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Posted on December 30, 2009 09:42

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#267

hello, i have some suggestions
1. naruto's shadow clones should be 25 DD
2. kiba's damage reduction should be 20
3. chouji's pills should take 15 health and the same effects, or take 10 health and improve skills by 10
4. neji's gentle fist should be 30 and enemy lose one chakra
5. kankuro's black secret machine one shot should deal 50, with c/d 1
6. temari's kamatari should deal 40 to one and 20 to others
7. zaku's extreme air cutter should deal 40 to all
8. haku's DD should be 30
9. shigure's needle barrage shouldn't have C/D
10. shizune should heal herself too

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Posted on December 30, 2009 10:13

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#268

@ka1ser and others- after this nerf, i dont see any reason at all to complain about naruto or ask for a change to dd

on your other suggestions-

kiba- he just needs nerf to 25 dr... and if that isnt enough, make garouga do 40 during DHW... anything more is overkill

haku- just needs a small nerf in the benefits from hs DIM.. 30 dd is way too little

temari- i would prefer it is she just gave 5 dd to all allies..she needs something small...thats it

shigure and shizune are fine...ur suggestions are OP

kank- that may or may not work
but after so many changes people are finally satisfied with him (i hate using him cause i feel he is a whore..but thats just me...he is balanced)

a lot of yor other suggestions are Op as well, and a lot of those chars dont need a change

@sailor- i find gaara fine... he is a decent instant-killer... though he reminds me a bit of kakashi now
and zaku is used out of aoe teams- he is the main component of counter teams as well
he can be used as a decent hybrid

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Posted on December 30, 2009 10:23

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#269

@lilscoot88 :
-reduce Kiba's DR to 25, Garouga deals 40 damage during DHW

-Hinata's perfectly balance

-Lee's fine

-nope, or you'll see Kankuro+4Tails 100 damage by 5 random

-30 AOE damage and invulnerable to physical is kinda OP. She's fine now except her Dust Wind.

-give EAC 2 turns cooldown that he won't be able to use it repeat without cooldown.

-Haku's fine

-for Iruka, I had suggest how to rework him completely before in page 10

-Kabuto&Kakashi're fine

@Bahadir :
I agree Inner Sakura maybe lower its duration by 1 or increase cooldown by 1 since it 2 random, you can spam it anytime you want.

Posted on December 30, 2009 11:00

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#270

@ninja,well i would like for hm to be something else.

somebody said something about spiker trying to taki over now... it is true these days you can't go 2 turns with out one of your charecters on red or close.

About IBD, i think he not only needs a rework but he needs G.R to be a differet skill. It has a high c/d, most people don't even go after him first, even if they did they are alot of physical or unique skill that he can't handle.

It be that skll with naruto caught in the gen jutsu(the one with CSS.)
It could stun one person for 2 turns and do a small amount of DOT and have a certain effect on a person effected by F.G

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