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Posted on July 4, 2009 01:00

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#841

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put a cool down on gaara's sand coffin

It has a cooldown. Do you mean a bigger one? Nah, gaara's fine, I believe. Perfectly balanced. He would be fine if it wasn't for the support he gets with other characters.

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Posted on July 4, 2009 01:01

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#842

Mata_Ratos wrote:

narutojr3000 wrote:

put a cool down on gaara's sand coffin

gaara is strong but i know luapman is just doing him justice......

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Posted on July 4, 2009 01:12

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I think gaara is super OP as a sannin i run into teams that abuse him a lot (and belive me I mean alot unless you have some one who does piercing damage your screwed against him in a 1 v.s 1 fight. And even from me using him myself I know he is OP. I once killed an entire team with him. I find when I face gaara-ino-sakura I
usully get kill with out doing a single move.

I actually see you on a 1on1 fight against him not that hard(unless hes had so much chakra stored up).Afterall,even if you have 5 hp,it wont make a differance than 100 hp.And when it becomes 1vs1,if Gaara starts with no chakra.Think of how long itll take for him to get the chakra to kill you,and theres at LEAST two turns for you to attack.For those who lose against him a lot,its probably because they have good stratagy or are lucky with ninjutsu chakra.For those who lose a lot with him,you just abuse his instant kill move,which is a horrible idea.And the Gaara-Ino-Sakura team,you dont usually get to use moves often because they all have a stun and all cost a differant type of chakra.(Dont say its an OP team,the combos in the team work really well)
I really think that with some teams,he can be really useless,but with some other teams,he can be a real pain in the butt.Remember to check his percentages to.
But remember,dont go around saying someones OP or UP just by his skills,Or because of what happened to you with that character.Actually look at the perecentages,ask other people with there experiences,and then post your ideas.

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Posted on July 4, 2009 01:32

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#844

Just sugestions

Uzumaki Naruto:
#Shadows Clones-> Naruto gains 30 or 35 destructible defense

Gaara of the Desert:
#Desert Coffin-> For 2 turns one enemy cannot perform physical or chakra skills (stun effect) and cannot become invulnerable

Dosu Kinuta:
#Melody Arm Tuning->
Chakra required: No Costs

Demon Brothers:
#Chain Wrap-> They Ignore "only" Stun skills

Shizune:
#Healing Resuscitation Regeneration-> For 2 turns she will heals one ally for 25 each turn and removes all enemy afflictions from them. Can be Iterrupted.
Cooldown: 3

Yakushi Kabuto:
#Mystical Palm Technique-> Deals 35 damage to one enemy and stun that enemy
CoolDown: 1 / Chakra required: 1 ninjutsu and 1 random

Sarutobi Asuma:
#Finishing Blow-> Deals 35 and stun one character

Baki:
#Flak Jacket-> Baki gains 50% damage reduction

Orochimaru:
#Cursed Seal Technique-> One ally takes 30 affliction damage but gains 2 chakras in 1 turn.
#Major Summoning Manda-> Deals 50 damage

Tsunade:
#Major Summoning Katsuyu->
Cooldown: 5
#Painful Sky Leg-> Same but now deals 35 ( she receive to much nerf xD)

Nidaime Hokage:
#Water Assault-> This skill takes 10 damage and stuns one enemy. When Water Collision Destruction is in effect this skill will double damage.

Kyuubi Naruto:
#Kyuubi Rasengan->
Cooldown:NONE
#Kyuubi Rage-> Does 15 affliction damage to one enemy. This skill will deal 5 physical damage every time it is used.
( Like Kurosaki Ichigo on S-A).

Uchiha Itachi:
#Mangekyou Sharingan-> For 5 turns Itachi can use Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. Itachi gains 50% damage reduction.
Cooldown: 5 / Chakra Required:1 bloodline
#Amaterasu-> For 2 turns Itachi does 30 affliction damage to one enemy each turn. If used in the enemy affected by Tsukuyomi will deals 40 each turn. Can be interrupted
Cooldown: 4 / Chakra Required:2 ninjutsus
#Tsukuyomi-> Same but ends only if Itachi receive oponent damage and if the target or one of their allies uses a skill on them (in same turn)
Cooldown: 4 / Chakra Required:2 genjutsus

Uzumaki Naruto (S):
#Oodama Rasengan-> Deals 50 damage ( not piercing, but with Kyuubi Boost will stun and piercing)
#Mass Shadow Clones->
Cooldown: 3

Sai (S):
#Adaptive Painting-> For 4 turns Sai improve his other skills."Great Beast Painting Lion" deals 10 additional damage."Great Beast Painting Snake" has no cooldown
Chakra required: 1 genjutsu

Rock Lee (S):
#Power of Youth-> 1 turn
Cooldown: 3(same)

Kazekage Gaara (S):
#Desert Missile-> Does 10 damage (not piercing)
#Desert Prison-> Does 15 damage or no cooldown or just 1 bloodline

Itachi Body Double (S):
#Genjutsu Reversal-> For 2 turns if any enemy uses a skill which is non-unique on Itachi Body Double (S), he will reflect that skill onto the enemy who used it. This skill is invisible.
Chakra required: 1 genjutsu 1 bloodline and 1 random
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Posted on July 4, 2009 01:34

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#845

Above@ You need to justify with your own justice wy do you think those changes should be made.

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Posted on July 4, 2009 01:38

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#846

If a character is unboosted when they are below 47%...that's pathetic.

Jiroubou 46.99%
Matches Played: 11008 (0.99%)
Gah. It pains me to say this because of all the Jiraya Turbo Fans we have. I think the best thing we could do is make his 30 damager piercing...I can't think of anything else that wouldn't omega overpower him.

Shodai Hokage 46.99%
Matches Played: 1013 (0.09%)
I can't really give a comment on this one. It surprised me. A lot. To me he's the ultima support character. Um...maybe Birth of the Trees should do 5 piercing damage every turn? I honestly cant think of ANYTHING to do with this character!

Sai (S) 46.93%
Matches Played: 897 (0.08%)
Sai is going up against genjutsu users. True, he is one of the only two gen/tai only users but...maybe adaptive painting should be invisible?

Kidoumaru 46.91%
Matches Played: 16155 (1.45%)
Easy easy easy. Boost his counter. Make it only cost one random OR make it make his 50 damager deal 75 damage to the target effected by his counter.

Momochi Zabuza 46.82%
Matches Played: 11941 (1.07%)
Zabuza's taijutsu attack should deal double damage during mist.

Rock Lee 46.59%
Matches Played: 38157 (3.43%)
Rock Lee is the strongest character in the game. People just overuse hidden gates. Maybe you should make hidden gates cost 2 taijutsu and boost the 1 turn to 2.

Shizune 46.1%
Matches Played: 5788 (0.52%)
Shizune's affliction attack should either stack or go back to 10 damage. That or kill the cooldown.

Maito Gai (S) 42.04%
Matches Played: 2938 (0.26%)
Maito Gai (S) has been screwed over so much...he's recovering right now. Just give his recent boost some time to replenish his wounds.

Posted on July 4, 2009 03:12

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#847

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Your suggestion for kyuubi naruto,IBD, and tsunande would make them overpowered

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Posted on July 4, 2009 03:53

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#848

sand coffin needs cooldown.im close to winning,and my ppenant constanly using tat move
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Posted on July 4, 2009 04:05

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#849

i think the changes are good exept the korenai its to nerfed..... :weird

and gui conter punch shold have the cooldown 1 turn not 2 turns caze that is a nerf.
and naruto shold have 30 destrotoble defence not 20 damage redotion that cannot be pirced..
:weird

and itachi body double shold have 1 ninjutsu on goukakio no jutso not 1 nin and random.
oh and tayuya when she stuns should have only 1 genjutsu not 1 genjutsu and 1 random whit 4 coldown.
Ok thats all:oh

Posted on July 4, 2009 04:29

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#850

@mathausunreal

I do not like most of your suggestions. Some are simply boosting uneeded characters. Others are reworking uneeded characters. Overall, your character suggestions are boosts. Some characters are even above the 50% range. Kyuubi, and IBD are two of them.

~Naruto- This is probably the only one I agree with. Naruto is impossible to kill with a majority of the characters in the game. I believe he should get DD instead of unpiercable reduction. That's just insane.

~Gaara- He's not overpowered, jsut the teams he's in are. You need to be very delicate when changing a charater to kill a team. You have to rework a character in such a way that it doesn't kill them. That's what he did with Shika (S). It killed Shika (S)'s use with Gaara a lot.

~Dosu- He's fine as he is. You mean you want someone to be able to spam 40 damage for one specific with no drawback except for a prep? 40 damage is already strong enough. He has a Spike, a drain, and an anti-invuln move. Also, he uses the least used chakra in the game (gen), all for a low cost. What more do you want from him?

~Demon Bros.- Why may I ask? Seriously, I think they're in the low percents if I'm not mistaken. These characters are also fine as is. They can't even spike, or AoE. They can only stun with a prep. You basically want his role to be the same as Sakura's without the healing? Also, needing a prep to stun?

~Shizune- This isn't the boost she needs. It's making it only 5 more damage, over two turns. I'd actually call this a nerf, and she's in the 46% range. I'd say to change it to an instant skill, so it can't be intterupted if you were going to keep it like that.

~Kabuto- He's fine as is. Why fix what isn't broken?

~Asuma- No, he's fine as is. You don't understand how powerful a drain is do you?

~Baki- Now why would you do this? I don't understand why at all. I never use Baki so I have no comment.

~Orochimaru- People complain that the affliction is too high for gaining only one chakra. You want to add 5 more affliction for the same amount of chakra, but gaining it all on the same turn? I don't think ANYONE is going to agree to this.

~Tsunade- The heal is already abused enough, and you want it even more abusable? C'mon, 50 AoE health is A LOT of healing. Also it can't be interuppted, and she gets reduction. ON her stun, she doesn't need the extra damage. It was barely a nerf to her stun. Only 3 characters in the game attack with mental skills.

~Nidaime- This may be needed as a boost. I don't like it, but it may be needed.

~Kyuubi Naruto- He's already at the top of the percentages, and you want to make him higher? You are insane! (no offense)

~Itachi- A full out rework is not needed. He's fine as he is which I have mentioned many times before.

~Naruto (S)- Where are you getting these ideas from? Really?Most of them are uneeded reworks. You didn't even provide a reason for them. This would make him even worse, and he's already below the 50% range I believe.

~Sai- I agree with this one. He has low percentage, and I ever use him.

~Lee (S)- Even though the move pisses me off too, it would make him massively underpowered. try using him, and you'll see why.

~Kazekage- No. Just No. Have you ever used him and gotten him to his final form? It's GODLY.

~IBD- On genjutsu Reversal I agree on. That move needs a boost, and this could be the boost it needs. On Gokakyuu no Jutsu, I don't. Comparing moves is not a good idea because they're skill sets are way different.

The reason why I dislike most of your reworks is because you didn't provide a reason. I am looking at things from MY point of view. Not YOURS. I can't tell what you are thinking. Please, provide reasons why instead of just changes.

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Posted on July 4, 2009 05:10

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#851

itachia123456789 wrote:

no guys hes fine just the way he is now the team u use gaara sakura and ino that team you can like never beat its so gay sakura or ino shouuld be nerfed
oh ya the reason gaara is ok is because when he used sand coffin on shigure he instantly killed him so thats y hes the way he is now
but his sand armor or whateever that thing is that gives him 40 damage reduction that needs a nerf

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Posted on July 4, 2009 05:29

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#852

I think KBD needs a boost make EWSW do 10 afflition damage and be uncounterable.

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Posted on July 4, 2009 07:16

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#853

mathausunreal wrote:

i kinda agree here

Posted on July 4, 2009 07:16

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#854

they should boost sasuras healing powers and the inner sakura should have 30% damage reduction and ko punch will deal 35 stun and cost 1 tai and 1 random

Posted on July 4, 2009 07:40

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#855

GhostMyth wrote:

dont agree with most of them as it can make them op

gaiS- waiting for the new winrates....but i dont wanna mess with him anymore

shodai and sai- they have low usage...so they are inconsistent

jirobo- he is 0.01% short...i wouldnt mind a boost of 5 damage...if it drops further

rock lee- dont agree with it...i would leave him alone

shizune- her affliction is good....let's not make it op again
i prefer a change to her other attacks

zabuza- double damage .....no way!

kidou- again i disagree...i like his counter
it is his cost which needs a change
my idea- needle shoot(whatever it is called) will deal 35/40 dmg during spider summon FOR 1 blood 1 random..........iam sure his cost needs a change
this way he fits better in in teams as well due to less dependance
i dunno if this makes him op...but i want a cost change

@mathasunreal- u hav posted ur ideas yet again......and yet again we are saying it is unneeded
for asuma, nidaime, kabuto- why on earth do u want more stunners?
and dont increase dmg of a chara and compensate it by increasing cost...u kill off the versatility of the chara

@narikku- that could cause naruto like combo's - inner sakura, invulni, inner sakura, invulni....though the benefits of inner sakura aren't that bad..but it could cause some probs
the boost to the heal is needed if anything else is nerfed...so i agree with that

maybe for her stun - if used on same enemy next turn- this skill only stuns 'certain class of skills'....or doesn't stun (thats a little extreme)....just to kill off continuous stuns
the other popular suggestion is to make KO punch stun during inner sakura but boost the damage...but again it could kill her off a bit too much

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