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Posted on July 3, 2009 01:47

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#811

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FalcoVet101 wrote:

About Jiroubo:
I dont know why you are proposing a nerf/rework to an already balanced character.His 20 AoE is very powerful.Its just like 4Tail's AoE except instead of a prep,it costs specifics.
His DCoN is a great skill to use combos,like Shika's "godly" (in my eyes)affliction on the enemy,as you are defended,or even Kidomaru.Any affliction character that can dmg your enemy would be a perfect combo with him
His regular 30 dmg skill is also fine.I dont see how it needs a buff.You saying his 30 DmG skill is useless.....obviously you dont use Jiroubo enough to see its usefulness,or even his entire skillset to your advantage

Personally,i think you (GermanSasuke)are all about boosting characters YOU think are UP,instead of ones that actually ARE UP.Though you did have some good arguements,i can easily make a counter arguement.And comparing Jiroubo to Tenten...Just like i said to Sailor when he compaired luap to SiB,you are comparing cats and dogs.They are two totally diiferent people/characters with their own ways/uses.

He may be balanced if you put him up with the right teammates but you cant deny that his aoe and his NFS are a little bit boring because they have no effect at all except damage. And i didnt thought about nerfing his aoe because I would trade the 20 aoe for the 15 affliction and some dd.

Even Nidaime is a good character if you put him up with the right teammates just most people dont know what ones as i didnt know regarding jiroubou

And by the way that was my first time asking for a boost ^^.

Just because a character has a simple moveset for the most part doesnt mean they should get a boost or rework in any way,unless their set is truly outdated (like shika before his amazing rework)

Jiroubo's chamber is what keeps him unique.Protecting your allies plus stealing chakra.Saying jiroubo should be boosted because he doesnt give effects except dmg,is like saying kidomaru needs a change because all he can really do is dmg,or oboro,or shigure,and etc.

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Posted on July 3, 2009 01:59

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when r we gettin new peoples?

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Posted on July 3, 2009 02:01

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#813

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when r we gettin new peoples?

We don't talk about that here. (d)

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Posted on July 3, 2009 02:36

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You've got a point there but Jiroubou didnt get any of his skills changed in 2 years and more except his DCON (he is begging for a change) and nowadays every character has got something to avoid/heal from/defend against his attacks. That wouldnt be very bad if he was a support character but he's a offensive character am i right and every other move that takes a tai and a random has something that makes it way better then his 2 moves. Let's start comparing (I know that you dont like comparing a lot but ill do it anyways ^^). First lets take Sasuke's lion barrage. Normally it does 30 damage like Jiroubous skill but it can be boosted to 45. Lee's Lotus can be improved to 120 dmg or to just a tai use. Tsunade's drop kick stuns. Neji's Gentle fist does 50
dmg over 2 rounds and the affected steals 1 chakra less for that time. Tenten does her 45 DoT etc. Jiroubou just has his lousy 20 dmg aoe and his good for nothing 30 dmg attack if Luapman-Sama would just make one of that skills piercing it would already be enough in my opinion.

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Posted on July 3, 2009 03:22

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FalcoVet101 wrote:

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it is his opinion he is entitled to it no need to criticize it because it does not fit your way of balance.
jirobu is fine to me but not mt type of charecter though.
i think the 3rd's death god is OP. it can kill in 3 turn for 3 random sure you can heal it off but with only 2 people in the game. and sure you can try to kill him first but he has most likely tooken out your strongest charecter. i would at least want the cost, dmg, or class changed since it is so eassy to pull of on the first turn.

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Posted on July 3, 2009 03:50

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spawn42 wrote:

when r we gettin new peoples?

This isnt the topic to discuss that.And besides,Luapman needs major battles for really good skills.For example,we might not get Sasuke(S) until the end of his fight with Itachi,because of his mangekyou sharingan and his thunder clap.
Most characters moves only appeared in filler(Although some characters we have
*cough*Kurenais*cough* moves have been in filler,so i dont get this.)So that explains that.And for chars such as Kankuro(S) and Kabuto(S),Luap's probably waiting for more skills,like Sasuke,or in the manga they didnt show the skills they did in Manga.
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Posted on July 3, 2009 03:53

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#817

sailornaruto39 wrote:

FalcoVet101 wrote:

GermanSasuke wrote:

FalcoVet101 wrote:

I think it is pretty balanced since the one using death god loses sandaime either way you could either just lose your character too, heal it off or kill sandaime before the death god gets your affected character and uses up a turns worth of chakra so its fine in my opinion

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Posted on July 3, 2009 03:57

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#818

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sailornaruto39 wrote:

FalcoVet101 wrote:

GermanSasuke wrote:

FalcoVet101 wrote:

well that is hard when you have 3 turns and your best man stunned an so what if it uses a turns worth of chakra if it is pulled off on your enemies turn and has 3 chakra then you are most likely; screwed.

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Posted on July 3, 2009 07:33

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yea i dont really like sakura in her current state maybe fix her up a bit and she'll be easier to use in battle

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Posted on July 3, 2009 07:54

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Sakura is freakin annoiyng.
I suggest:
1.To remove her stun.
2:She will only stun when she will activate inner sakura.
hm?

Posted on July 3, 2009 07:57

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eh not to bad might un sucky her

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Posted on July 3, 2009 08:10

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#822

sailornaruto39 wrote:

FalcoVet101 wrote:

GermanSasuke wrote:

FalcoVet101 wrote:

On th jirobou discussion-
he needs a slight change, but just a slight change

dungeon chamber- extremely good, now it is even better as the opponent gets a measly 15 dd...

his aoe- decent enough...nice quick aoe

his single target- this i think needs a boost of 5 damage...and 5 damage ONLY
i sorta figure that 1 tai1 random is balanced for 35 damage
there are so many people who do 30 damage for 1 tai1 random....not doing an all-out comparison here but every single one of their attacks can be boosted or has an extra effect...lee, kiba, leeS, gai,
jirobo just needs that extra 5 dmg just to make him a little worth it.....
otherwise i enjoy him as a mainly simple character
his winrates have been consistently low as well...this change wont make him op...just make him a better choice in some teams

on sandaime-
i dont think it is that op...but i am actually wondering how many poeple use his shikki fuujin on the first turn and quickly change the game into a 2vs2....in that case his other attacks are underused

on sakura- she is bugging
but she needs an all-out rework
the stun should only be used in inner sakura...but this has to be accompanied by other boosts

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Posted on July 3, 2009 08:10

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RBD_BOY wrote:

Sakura is freakin annoiyng.
I suggest:
1.To remove her stun.
2:She will only stun when she will activate inner sakura.
hm?

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Posted on July 3, 2009 08:33

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@sakura she does not need that nerfed that would UP her big time.
@hei, sorry if i mispelled your name, but sakura does not need a boost last thing we need is to make stun teams stronger.
@sandaime, alot of peole use the death god because of how easy it is to pull off. i would think adding some specfices in it's cost.that move is godly in end game if he is not hurt to bad.

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Posted on July 3, 2009 09:56

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She needs a boost way more than a nerf. A rework would even help like ninjtsuuchiha said. Im not saying boost her stun, just something to help her herself be boosted. Maybe something extra on Inner Sakura or make the Heal 25.

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