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  Posted on August 7, 2009 23:27
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deesims: 2 tailed isnt that a bit pointles? :oh

naruto needs to be nerfed his shadow clones dmg redction should go down to 10-15 or it should be piercable

IBD: boost his atk
Shizune: make the aff dmg from poison mist back to 10 or make it 25 aff dmg over 3 rounds so 10-10-5
  Posted on August 7, 2009 23:43
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Eh I Think Hidan , Should Be a insta killer o.o......... Only because The Curse of Jashin Is A , Insta killing move... Hidan should take , Afflection for each time he uses "impale It should cost two bloods and a random ''Also Impale should ither kill the selected opponet , or They lose 50% of there current health ... ''good Thought''

'' I also think ITBD's fire ball justu should do more Atleast 15 to one "and 5 afflection to all for 2 turns ^_^ and his other two skill Eh,....Guess there Fine ''


"In the Futer of NA I'm seggesting 4 Man Teams Since A team is composed of One Sensie And three others , Might be a good idea to test this out Eh..."

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  Posted on August 7, 2009 23:45
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charlesloop wrote:
Eh I Think Hidan , Should Be a insta killer o.o......... Only because The Curse of Jashin Is A , Insta killing move... Hidan should take , Afflection for each time he uses "impale It should cost two bloods and a random ''Also Impale should ither kill the selected opponet , or They lose 50% of there current health ... ''good Thought''

'' I also think ITBD's fire ball justu should do more Atleast 15 to one "and 5 afflection to all for 2 turns ^_^ and his other two skill Eh,....Guess there Fine ''


"In the Futer of NA I'm seggesting 4 Man Teams Since A team is composed of One Sensie And three others , Might be a good idea to test this out Eh..."
Very bad idea. Hidan with an instant kill will make him way OP. He'd instantly win in a 1 on 1.

Shikamaru should be boosted because he is way too weak. He needs multiple preparation just to do 8 or 10 affliction damage to an enemy. That's the most damage he can do, which is BS.
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  Posted on August 7, 2009 23:48
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BooYousuck wrote:
charlesloop wrote:
Eh I Think Hidan , Should Be a insta killer o.o......... Only because The Curse of Jashin Is A , Insta killing move... Hidan should take , Afflection for each time he uses "impale It should cost two bloods and a random ''Also Impale should ither kill the selected opponet , or They lose 50% of there current health ... ''good Thought''

'' I also think ITBD's fire ball justu should do more Atleast 15 to one "and 5 afflection to all for 2 turns ^_^ and his other two skill Eh,....Guess there Fine ''


"In the Futer of NA I'm seggesting 4 Man Teams Since A team is composed of One Sensie And three others , Might be a good idea to test this out Eh..."
Very bad idea. Hidan with an instant kill will make him way OP. He'd instantly win in a 1 on 1.

Shikamaru should be boosted because he is way too weak. He needs multiple preparation just to do 8 or 10 affliction damage to an enemy. That's the most damage he can do, which is BS.
I Also said 50% Two ways there
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  Posted on August 7, 2009 23:50
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BooYousuck wrote:
charlesloop wrote:
Eh I Think Hidan , Should Be a insta killer o.o......... Only because The Curse of Jashin Is A , Insta killing move... Hidan should take , Afflection for each time he uses "impale It should cost two bloods and a random ''Also Impale should ither kill the selected opponet , or They lose 50% of there current health ... ''good Thought''

'' I also think ITBD's fire ball justu should do more Atleast 15 to one "and 5 afflection to all for 2 turns ^_^ and his other two skill Eh,....Guess there Fine ''


"In the Futer of NA I'm seggesting 4 Man Teams Since A team is composed of One Sensie And three others , Might be a good idea to test this out Eh..."
Very bad idea. Hidan with an instant kill will make him way OP. He'd instantly win in a 1 on 1.

Shikamaru should be boosted because he is way too weak. He needs multiple preparation just to do 8 or 10 affliction damage to an enemy. That's the most damage he can do, which is BS.
You say that his idea is bad, while providing a bad idea of your own.

Shikamaru can do 12 affliction damage for two turns for one genjutsu. Even with prep, it's still prretty amazing. He's not supposed to be an AoE support, he's supposed to do low damage, and if iven the chance, AoE, so the he's stunned before he gets to do anything is not a valid statement. If anything, I think he should get 5 DD everytime he uses Meditate.

@Hidan idea- Currently Hidan's percentages are around 51%, making him pretty balanced. I don't feel he needs to be changed. He's already pwnsome on 1v1, and I don't think we should make him even more pwnsome.
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  Posted on August 8, 2009 01:10
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Luapman when are the new characters coming out.:mad

When u stop askin when they`ll come out :suspicious


i still think kido jiroubou lee & shizune needs a boost... atleast give them a try before new chars come Luap :unsure

the point of jirobou is a versatile character, but in exchange for that, he is not as good at any of his possibilities as a specialized character

eg:
Walling : Jiroubou's team gets 60 DD, and 1 chakraa is stolen, all for 3 turns
.................Shino: His whole team is completely invulnerable for 2 turns

AoE: Jiroubo Does 20 to all targetable ememies
.........Old tenten: 30 for same cost
.........Tenten (S): 15 to 1, 10 to the rest for 1 tai

Single hit damage(dunno the term):
.........Jiroubo: 30 damage to 1 enemy, cant be improved without help
.........Sasuke: 30 damage to 1 enemy, same cost, can be improved without help


So basically, his skills always stay the same (on his own) and cant be improved (without help from another character)

PLUS: all his skills are 2 chakra skills, and that is what ruins him in 1 vs 1, that and all of his skills have a better counterpart somewhare else on N-A

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  Posted on August 8, 2009 01:16
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BooYousuck wrote:
charlesloop wrote:
Eh I Think Hidan , Should Be a insta killer o.o......... Only because The Curse of Jashin Is A , Insta killing move... Hidan should take , Afflection for each time he uses "impale It should cost two bloods and a random ''Also Impale should ither kill the selected opponet , or They lose 50% of there current health ... ''good Thought''

'' I also think ITBD's fire ball justu should do more Atleast 15 to one "and 5 afflection to all for 2 turns ^_^ and his other two skill Eh,....Guess there Fine ''


"In the Futer of NA I'm seggesting 4 Man Teams Since A team is composed of One Sensie And three others , Might be a good idea to test this out Eh..."
Very bad idea. Hidan with an instant kill will make him way OP. He'd instantly win in a 1 on 1.

Shikamaru should be boosted because he is way too weak. He needs multiple preparation just to do 8 or 10 affliction damage to an enemy. That's the most damage he can do, which is BS.
You say that his idea is bad, while providing a bad idea of your own.

Shikamaru can do 12 affliction damage for two turns for one genjutsu. Even with prep, it's still prretty amazing. He's not supposed to be an AoE support, he's supposed to do low damage, and if iven the chance, AoE, so the he's stunned before he gets to do anything is not a valid statement. If anything, I think he should get 5 DD everytime he uses Meditate.

@Hidan idea- Currently Hidan's percentages are around 51%, making him pretty balanced. I don't feel he needs to be changed. He's already pwnsome on 1v1, and I don't think we should make him even more pwnsome.
5 DD would be a massive waste of time. It should stack each time he does it if that's what you meant. Yet, you say it's "pretty amazing". I disagree. No one uses him because they know that he's not "amazing. He'd get annihilated if he's on 1 vs 1. Even though he's not meant for AoE, what is he meant for? One on one, no. AoE, no. Stunner, maybe. Shikamaru should at least get a boost to 15 affliction for 2 turns instead of 12 affliction.
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  Posted on August 8, 2009 01:33
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Narikku wrote:
Shikamaru can do 12 affliction damage for two turns for one genjutsu. Even with prep, it's still prretty amazing. He's not supposed to be an AoE support, he's supposed to do low damage, and if iven the chance, AoE, so the he's stunned before he gets to do anything is not a valid statement. If anything, I think he should get 5 DD everytime he uses Meditate.

@Hidan idea- Currently Hidan's percentages are around 51%, making him pretty balanced. I don't feel he needs to be changed. He's already pwnsome on 1v1, and I don't think we should make him even more pwnsome.

Shika: i dunno how his percents are, but the slight dfence would very welcome... he's the first to die in a match... at least every time i use him... for him to succeed in doing AoE, he must be paired with another AoE stunner or a counter character, otherwise he's dead in 2-3 turns... 5 DD that may stack every time he uses Meditate would be an excelent boost.

Hidan: one of the best 1 on 1 characters out there... if was an instant killer, he'd be pwnsome... sure he needs a lot of prep, but if all succeeds, he's deadly! no need to change him right now...

EDIT: Nara Shikamaru 48.14%... the DD boost would raise him a bit (50-51% maybe), and maybe that'd be good...
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  Posted on August 8, 2009 01:36
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Narikku wrote:
BooYousuck wrote:
charlesloop wrote:
Eh I Think Hidan , Should Be a insta killer o.o......... Only because The Curse of Jashin Is A , Insta killing move... Hidan should take , Afflection for each time he uses "impale It should cost two bloods and a random ''Also Impale should ither kill the selected opponet , or They lose 50% of there current health ... ''good Thought''

'' I also think ITBD's fire ball justu should do more Atleast 15 to one "and 5 afflection to all for 2 turns ^_^ and his other two skill Eh,....Guess there Fine ''


"In the Futer of NA I'm seggesting 4 Man Teams Since A team is composed of One Sensie And three others , Might be a good idea to test this out Eh..."
Very bad idea. Hidan with an instant kill will make him way OP. He'd instantly win in a 1 on 1.

Shikamaru should be boosted because he is way too weak. He needs multiple preparation just to do 8 or 10 affliction damage to an enemy. That's the most damage he can do, which is BS.
You say that his idea is bad, while providing a bad idea of your own.

Shikamaru can do 12 affliction damage for two turns for one genjutsu. Even with prep, it's still prretty amazing. He's not supposed to be an AoE support, he's supposed to do low damage, and if iven the chance, AoE, so the he's stunned before he gets to do anything is not a valid statement. If anything, I think he should get 5 DD everytime he uses Meditate.

@Hidan idea- Currently Hidan's percentages are around 51%, making him pretty balanced. I don't feel he needs to be changed. He's already pwnsome on 1v1, and I don't think we should make him even more pwnsome.
5 DD would be a massive waste of time. It should stack each time he does it if that's what you meant. Yet, you say it's "pretty amazing". I disagree. No one uses him because they know that he's not "amazing. He'd get annihilated if he's on 1 vs 1. Even though he's not meant for AoE, what is he meant for? One on one, no. AoE, no. Stunner, maybe. Shikamaru should at least get a boost to 15 affliction for 2 turns instead of 12 affliction.

What he is meant for is a low damage to the enemy, just like how he was before, except now, he has the possibility to do AoE, or stun. He's a support character, much like Itachi, actually. He also only uses one main type, while Itachi uses 3. Yes Itachi has a permanent affliction, but Shikamaru also has the chance to AoE. He's labeled a support character, like Kabuto, and Shizune.

He's very useful with Sakura, KBD, Kankuro, Kidomaru, and pretty much any other spiker.

What is Kabuto meant for? AoE, No, One on One?, No, Stunner? Maybe.

What is Shizune used for? 1v1? No. AoE? No. stunner? No. Healer? Maybe. I do feel, however, Shizune doesn't do enough for the costs, and costs way too much chakra to be useful.

They are all support characters. Also, affliction damage is the strongest damage in the game. it can bypass any defense, except ignoring, and healing. Since when is 24 affliciton for one specific weak? I know it can be interrupted, but stil, it's certainly not weak. He's not supposed to work alone either. He's supposed to work with others, that's why this is a team game. Some characters are just very bad by themselves.

Also,

Nara Shikamaru 48.14%
Matches Played: 49612 (2.3%)

He is used 2% of the time out of all matches Played at Anbu Level and above, that last over 3 minutes. That's more than a lot of characters, and don't say it's becaus ehe's a starter character because

Hyuuga Hinata 51.64%
Matches Played: 29609 (1.37%)

She's alsoa starter character, and has 20,000 less usage than Shikamaru has.

And by the 5 DD, yes, I did mean stacking.
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  Posted on August 8, 2009 01:49
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i think narutos shadow clones defense should be destructible defense cuz if its 1 on 1 u have ten ten u cant win T_T soo maybe change for him laupman:amused thnx
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  Posted on August 8, 2009 02:01
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i think narutos shadow clones defense should be destructible defense cuz if its 1 on 1 u have ten ten u cant win T_T soo maybe change for him laupman:amused thnx

no, that's not necessary... Naruto seems unbeateble, but he's not. just use someone that can makes him unable to defend or go invulnerable (Kiba, Dosu, etc)... believe me, he's useless then
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  Posted on August 8, 2009 02:17
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Unexpected balance change to Finger Gen and an undisclosed skill (atm).
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  Posted on August 8, 2009 02:22
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Unexpected balance change to Finger Gen and an undisclosed skill (atm).

Awesome ^^ Can't wait fo rhte change (I'm guessing Shizune's heal)

So not the change I was expecting.
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  Posted on August 8, 2009 02:22
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nice change. let's see what effects it will bring to him...

my guess is Finger Genjutsu will compensate (even more) the lack of use of the other skills... but i think there are some more important problems now you should look at...
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  Posted on August 8, 2009 02:27
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Nice change,Itachi Body Double will be way more useful knowing that you'll get a gen no matter what.
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