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Poll: Is He good
194 vote(s) since August 13, 2007 18:46
yes (83) (43%)
No (8) (4%)
awesome (54) (28%)
terrible (11) (6%)
i wouldnt use him (22) (11%)
i couldnt care less (16) (8%)
  Posted on August 14, 2007 19:48
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I'm still a bit hesitant about it, because... Well, if we consider offensive moves to be damage-dealing moves, let's see what's left:

KO Punch: Just target someone else.
Lion's Barrage: Just... why?
Lotus: Not worth it without gates.
Drunken Fist: Find another target.
Gentle Fist: Another Target.
Partial Double Size: Sharply limited without Chouji's moveset.
Vibrating Sound Drill: Same idea with Dosu.

This means that Sharingan Copy's usage is sharply limited when you consider who people primarily use. Since it doesn't even disable their attack like Kakashi's does, and isn't hidden... Well, its use is limited at best, as far as i can tell.

I've got no problems otherwise, since Sharingan is a milder version of Gai, and 30 damage AOE for that cost is pretty reasonable.
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  Posted on August 15, 2007 00:11
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actually offensive is any attack used on him by an enemy unless it requires bloodline or a preperation he can copy it

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  Posted on August 15, 2007 00:40
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just a suggestion, make it sharingan copy hidden.


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  Posted on August 15, 2007 02:03
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In that case... Well, we're still left with quite a few problem areas.

Team 7: Already mentioned.
Team 8: You can only copy Dynamic Air Marking and Female Bug, both useless in this case.
Team 9: Already Mentioned.
Team 10: You can get Ino, but that's about it. Without his boosts, Chouji isn't very effective.
The Sand Team: Temari and Gaara can both be copied to some degree of success, I'll admit.
Haku: Only acupuncture, which is somewhat limited by the fact that you don't get the boost from DEM.
The Sound Nin: Already mentioned.

So, even considering that, your uses are still sharply limited. I'd suggest at least making it more like Kakashi's, and hide it and make it stop one attack.
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  Posted on August 15, 2007 19:12
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ruuden thats just the characters that you automatically get like he could copy corrupt chidori with it there are alot of moves he could copy out everyone in game that would make him very powerful

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  Posted on August 16, 2007 14:26
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I started with the characters you start out with to make an example, seeing as 80% of the people only use them, and rarely used unlocked characters. If you REALLY want me to go into it more deeply...

Sound Four: You DO get a few here, though Jirobou's more likely to hit you with lower damage stuff or use DCON on someone else. Tayuta's a bit weak without the followup. Sakon, you at least get a decent damager, but that's it.
Zabuza: Most likely just Great Waterfall, which does seem OK. However, both Silent Homicide and Hidden Mist are pretty weak without the other.
Shizune: Well, you've got her, at least.
Kabuto: Well, at least you get a few good things out of him.
Kurenai: Assuming you somehow get out of TBD, that's all you get, and that's almost ridiculous.
Asuma: Flying Swallow is all, which is somewhat limited by the fact that you can't get Finishing Blow.
Kakashi: Nin-dogs, which is severely crippled without Raikiri, and vice-versa.
Jiraya: Great Fireball, which is severely limited without the summoning, and Toad Mouth Bind, which might be usable.
Tsunade: You get PSL, but that's it. And that's assuming she attacks the right target.
Orochimaru: Nothing.
Sandaime: FDFM, which probably will take a back seat to Weapon Clone, and Shiki Fuujin, which pretty much kills the character before he can use it.
Kyuubi Naruto: Kyuubi Rasengan is a good move, though its backfiring doesn't help when the character can't heal.
CSS: His moveset isn't exactly great without Curse Seal boosting it, which you can't get.
Shodaime: Needs a prep. Nothing.
Nindaime: You do get a couple of good moves here.
Anko: You get a couple of good moves here, though Dual Pin's role as a preparation doesn't exactly help your case.
Baki: His good point is surviving, not dealing huge damage. His moveset is fair, but without his survivability, it's nothing to be too amazed at.
Gaara: All you get is Quicksand Waterfall, which isn't exactly a huge point. Still, it's fair.
Yoroi: Preparation. Enough said.


Let me put it into perspective. There are 43 total characters, each with 4 moves. Even without counting the invulnerability moves, that's a total of 129 moves. Out of 129 moves, you get about 30 moves, give or take 5 or so depending on how useful you think something is. That's still less than a 1/4 chance of getting a usable move every time someone attacks you, and that's assuming that they're they're foolish enough to attack you with a good move when they can see Sharingan Copy is active. And, that's assuming there's an average use of unlocked characters in comparison to normal characters, which is somewhat questionable.

Personally, I'd rather not take that gamble, ESPECIALLY since you can see Sharingan Copy active. And, there's always the problem of coding it in.

At the LEAST, make it invisible when it's used. Still, its sharply limited usage doesn't exactly help its case.

And yes, I know that the probability still has other things to consider. But, currently, I'm too tired to figure them all out. It's too complex to factor in chakra costs, popularity of characters, and whatnot.
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  Posted on August 17, 2007 17:13
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um just to be clear ruduen i didnt ask you to figure out all themoves and stuuf but i guess your right ill make it invisible

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  Posted on August 18, 2007 03:24
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pretty god.it would be really helpful if you copied replacement jutsu.2 turns of ivulnerabilty.also somthing i need to ask.say if CS sasuke uses a full leveled chidori was copied would the power of the move?like it coping 154 damage part or the 60?plz answer
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  Posted on August 18, 2007 21:08
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Quote by orboro
say if CS sasuke uses a full leveled chidori was copied would the power of the move?like it coping 154 damage part or the 60?plz answer


it would be 60 but if it was a 154 it would take look to survive it

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  Posted on August 19, 2007 01:48
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  Posted on August 19, 2007 01:49
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  Posted on August 19, 2007 11:58
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i love madrigal's art.

sharingan could prolly be 25 percent, but i guess it's ok because...

...sharingan copy is somewhat cheesy despite the limited skills that it can copy. does it also copy the cost and cooldown of the move?

WCT is fine.

overall he's a solid character.
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  Posted on August 19, 2007 17:10
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yeah sharingan copy copies the cooldown and chakra cost

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  Posted on August 23, 2007 22:24
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i updated sharingan copy so its invisiblelike suggested by others

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  Posted on August 25, 2007 08:52
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