The Fresh, Shiny, New Altar. - Page 6

RavenZ Rank: member Forum Rank: Genin Posts: 121 Joined on: October 5, 2006

#76 Quote by aburame Quote by RavenZ Quote by Kowimen I beat Tsunade but my Sasori mission numbers didn't change. Tsunade is a Hokage, isn't she? It sucks if she don't.. its a "bug" tsunade and orochimary are not kage in this game also if in naruto theya re hokage and kokage..i hope it get fixed O_O Why should orochimaru count as a Hokage? or even Kage lvl they are known as the sannin and as for now orochimaru counts as the Missing-nin Or abandoner of Konoha. orochimaru is kokage not hokage its sound village kage :)

RavenZ Rank: member Forum Rank: Genin Posts: 121 Joined on: October 5, 2006

#77 Quote by aburame Quote by RavenZ Quote by Kowimen I beat Tsunade but my Sasori mission numbers didn't change. Tsunade is a Hokage, isn't she? It sucks if she don't.. its a "bug" tsunade and orochimary are not kage in this game also if in naruto theya re hokage and kokage..i hope it get fixed O_O Why should orochimaru count as a Hokage? or even Kage lvl they are known as the sannin and as for now orochimaru counts as the Missing-nin Or abandoner of Konoha. orochimaru is kokage not hokage its sound village kage :)

harakiri Rank: member Forum Rank: Genin Posts: 182 Joined on: February 10, 2007

#78 i've looked at the balances and i agree with them. sasori needed that nerf to his destructible defense and changing kakashi's sharingan to a blood and a gen is alrite in my book. kisame's boost...well i'll have to wait and see about that. my biggest beef is the lowering of the mission level requirements. that was just alittle bit upsetting especially for those people who had to level there way up to jinchuuriki just to get sasori. other than that i have not problems All characters unlocked! http://www.naruto-boards.com/178749/harakiri's-character-collection/ http://www.naruto-boards.com/241176/harakiri's-one-piece-collection-updated:blackbeard/ Offered 82 times to join a clan......turned down all of them. Stop sending me invites unless you are offering to make me your leader Check out my artwork on deviantart.com http://blacknoise06.deviantart.com/

jamshaw Rank: member Forum Rank: Sannin Posts: 3329 Joined on: July 24, 2006

#79 yeah the nerf to sasori was needed and the nerf to his moves was a added bonus.. kakashi eye in my opionion was not needed because his eye was already good...but people just want a super insta killing eye...but i can't complain because its easier to pull off even though it was already easy to...seems like a personal boost not a unbais one kisame was boost was nice but i would still rather if his watershark was aoe even if it could only be during the water collision sakura s her heal is fine...sure she could kill a opponet in 4 turns...but she would need 4 turns worth of consectuive tai charka...are you just going to stay there and let her do that? If you get her one on one who fault is that? It's your own....you go after sakura s first and take her out fast...just common tactics like fighting sakon....also her self heal is being blown out of proportions...so what she can heal 30 it isn't that she will always heal 30...and the turn she heals 30 she can't heal someone else that same turn or attack...also she needs a stream of nin to keep it up in 1 vs 1 kakashi --- i saw people complaining about him because they say he is not verstaitle....he can't be verstatle when ur whole team is based off of trying to insta-kill...he has a move that does 55...pump up the damage or use it complementary towards another attack...before this kakashi mission no one was complaining about him...just people don't want to think...he can use 3 charka types but he isn't going to be using all 3 in a game...people are so worried about charka clashing...that why there team fails...charka clashing is only bad when the team is charka heavy , no cooldowns and directly conflict... ... orochimaru is not a kage...he is just kage level...he is not reconigized by the other 5 kages neither does he consider himself a kage...he is just a village "leader" tsnade is a offical kage and was offically made that by the village ...off topic since this new altar was made a lot of new people started coming..(i wonder how many will come when its dirty) but it seems as if all the posts are based of I wants instead it needs...just biased opionons...not seeing the character as a whole and of course the "HE can do it , so why can't he"...nerfs/boosts are just being based off of plain bad luck EDITIED

adrianhhh777 Rank: member Forum Rank: Chuunin Posts: 494 Joined on: January 22, 2007

#80 well here is an idea from my friend biggagamehunter for kakashi(s) for his mangekou move instead of a regular old 45 damage.make it 30 damage and remove one random skill on the targets moveset.and this skill can only be used once.notice I said random so it could get rid of a important skill or a unimportant please give your feedback. and here is one from my friend destroyer100 for kakashi(s) make the damage to mangekou 35/30 and add half the damage kakashi has taken to the move.for an example if kakashi is at 70 hp mangekou gets 15 damage points added to it.bcuz he has taken 30 damage so half of 30 is 15.therefore making mangekou deal 50/45 damage that turn.the cooldown would have to be pretty high though.somewhere around 3-5.

RavenZ Rank: member Forum Rank: Genin Posts: 121 Joined on: October 5, 2006

#81 orochimaru is kokage...kage of sound village... leader of ninja village is called kage so must not be reconigized from other person...and sound village is a effective village also goes at chuunin exam... for tsunade...well she is hokage no doubt about this hope O_O

Bombader Rank: member Forum Rank: Chuunin Posts: 474 Joined on: September 29, 2006

#82 To be honest all the Sannin could be considered Kage' level, not just Orochi. Figurativly speaking saying that Orochi could be considered Kage' because he was considered but rejected could also say the same about Jiraya, and how he turned the offer down. However apparently Otokage doesn't fit, though Tsunade should count considering she was the 5th hokage. Kakashi when in making teams, I consider him a blue character, since two skill require nin, I had a working team with him but apparently doesn't work when facing other stun teams with cheaper costs. And Kisame's 25 was removed due to his secondary abilities that could drain making him part of drain teams, Sakura S 25 is different in that it's her only attack. Her self heal is powerful when not in the presence of a stunner. Though you also be careful that she can still use self heal while taking duration damage (like gentle fist, or spiders). And I still hate 8 streaks bleh. Milk Carton

Itachi999 Rank: member Forum Rank: Jounin Posts: 1482 Joined on: July 24, 2006

#83 Regarding the Kage for Sasori's mission, Tsunade's char was made before she became the 5th, as for Oro, I'm not sure but he probably was Otokage before his char was made, so IMO his char should count for Kage o-o . "Nijyuu-Shoutai Is Dominant" Read.Learn.Live~

TheMax1087 Rank: member Forum Rank: Genin Posts: 63 Joined on: June 4, 2007

#84 Im not certain, but doesnt rehab gaara count as kazekage? I already unlocked sasori, but i dont remember winning 10 matches against the first second or third. and seeing as tsunade doesnt count my only other wins coulldve come from rehab gaara. Anyway, Is anything ever going to be done about the damage from Ino's mind body disturbance going through when its reflected, and the damage from naruto(s)'s mass kage bunshin being unreflectable(or at least its description updated to say it cant be reflected). One of my attempts to unlock kakashi(s) ended on my 8th match because of that.

barasch Rank: member Forum Rank: Chuunin Posts: 600 Joined on: May 16, 2008

#85 whether tsunade and orochimaru should count as kage's dosent have much to do with the alter, i think it is more fitting for the game sugestions section, the shiny new alter isent so shiny anymore, and alot of posts DO NOT discuss balance or anything related.... people might wanna look up what this topic is about, and if they still dont understand then maby they should look up in the dictonary the words they dont understand anyway on topic: Kisame BD is not, yes he is NOT underpowerd, when judging a charecter you must look at the charecter as a whole and not by one spacific skill, if you were to do that then you could say that the sharks is outclassd by gai[s]'s nunchaka's skill (probobly got the spelling wrong), in every single way, but each charecter is different and has a different usage/perpose.... Kisame BD's "Explosive Water Shock Wave" is one of the better skills in all of n-a, even putting aside the boost to the damage it is still worth the cost, adding a cooldown to a skill is an amazing effect, learn from tsunade, each time she uses her heal cooldown of each of her skills is increasd by 1 and that is quit a pain using that heal, i mean personally, i only use it when i dont need nin for anything else, or if its 1 on 1 or something like that.... note: i would like to thank all those who cuased the greatest poster of the alter of all times to give up on it(soryuju), keep up the great work The "other" account of barasch1992//sig by Amatsuka

zerocooldx Rank: member Forum Rank: Sannin Posts: 3469 Joined on: June 4, 2007

#86 Kisame BD may as well have the best move in the game right now <.< 4 rounds of a cooldown increase move. That doesen't sound overpowered to anyone? O.o Most of the characters in the game have at least a 1 rnd cooldown not to mention that chakra always plays a role in pulling off moves. And now you add a extra cooldown to everything -_-" Yes all those cooldowns will give you a chance to store up chakra but what good is it when ure team is unable to do anything or better yet, dead >.< -----------Ree + Jorthem = In Thx------------Thx for the sig Nub-Cake------------ I drink tea and eat cake at the same time. AND play two hand touch w/ teh queen.

jamshaw Rank: member Forum Rank: Sannin Posts: 3329 Joined on: July 24, 2006

#87 off topic but you can call him a kage but he is not a kage... he is just kage level...their is a damn difference... sound village is a "new village" in the naruto world so it's impossible for them to have a kage...just a village leader...to call him a ka ge you would also have to call the leader of the waterfall village , hidden star, and rain village leaders kages... thier is only 5 which was explained in the first naruto volume that came out... @ raven they are a new village...sound is new to the naruto world...being in the chuunin exams have nothing to do with your village having a kage...ex hidden waterfall doesn't and never did have a kage... but he is kage level..just not otokage...its get real annoyin seeing that... if orochimaru is called otokage its by his villagers who do it out of respect... kages are only for the 5 most powerful villages...that is why their are currently 5 kages of the 5 main elements...water, wind, earth, fire, lightening Kages you can look it up and you will see it is the same on all websites @the max i think u now mean the random damage from that...since it doesn't target the person directly then it can't be reflected...it's indirect ...

thatsprettycool Rank: member Forum Rank: Academy Student Posts: 36 Joined on: February 8, 2008

#88 I for one, love Kisame BD's skill. Although to try him out I did a couple of quick games and I didn't win a single one. His skill looks decent and in a long battle it can be efficient but I tried him with an arrangement of teams and he wasn't really useful. Usually he is the last man standing against 2 or 3 characters with a extra cooldown or two on their hands. You use his damage skill and if you are lucky his counter, but to no avail. You lose. A couple of ways to combat this might be. You could make Five Man-Eating Sharks uninterruptable when Explosive Water Shock Wave is in action OR instead of doubling the damage on it Explosive Water Shock Wave is in action could make it target two random targets or even a solid AoE maybe with a 33% damage increase. Or you could make his counter a tad more useful. Ways you could do this might be: Instead of just being able to target Kisame you might be able to target an ally also/instead. With the update to the lower of the rank requirements to unlock the newer characters I was a bit saddened, I thought you had put an element of difficulty into getting the brand spanking new characters but instead you made it easier. ALSO on the increasing amount of +8 win streaks needed to unlock characters matter. It's really average to be honest. More things like the Kage level defeating thing need to be implemented, grinding with older characters constantly can be a little depressing. That is all.

deniz09 Rank: member Forum Rank: Chuunin Posts: 542 Joined on: March 4, 2008

#89 Quote by harakiri i've looked at the balances and i agree with them. sasori needed that nerf to his destructible defense and changing kakashi's sharingan to a blood and a gen is alrite in my book. kisame's boost...well i'll have to wait and see about that. my biggest beef is the lowering of the mission level requirements. that was just alittle bit upsetting especially for those people who had to level there way up to jinchuuriki just to get sasori. other than that i have not problems i agree with him about nerfing the missions... i got sasori and he was OP but why lower the mission...i dont get it ¤.........[:..:] Getting kicked out of Japan for Being Fat....lol [:..:].........¤ ¤...! Watch My AMVs !.....¤......[:..:] Espada Assassins Member [:..:]........¤ sigs by endless_dream & chiachuan

Saix Rank: member Forum Rank: Academy Student Posts: 47 Joined on: April 19, 2008

#90 Rehabilitated Gaara is the gaara that fought against Kimimaro, if you look closely at his moveset. At the moment to me, Kisame Body Double plays a part of a particularly powerful support character, being that his move that raises the cooldown for the opponents exists, and thats truly unique. Kisame body double only has 1 offensive move that deals damage. I wouldn't consider it being weak, seeing the fact that it can be continuous, and if placed on the same target when the cooldown has diminished, it would deal 30 damage on the last turn fo the first time you used the move, and the move's cycle would continue. In other words: 15...30...60... etc. I have not tested this out yet, and would like someone to confirm it.

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