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Posted on August 29, 2008 08:49

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#361

it's a strategy game and the knowledge of what moves are what are what separates pro's from the rest

also remembering cooldowns is important although chakra counting is kinda out of the question with invisible skills but meh

anyway's i would like sharingan to be changed to a more useful move but not many moves now use bloodline and he lack's the abilities LOGICALLY to use gatling punch or sakon's tech's

a chakra move is a move comprised of chakra either pure or elementally charged and kusanage is a sword that stab's you not a chakra type jutsu it's a weapon it's pretty simple mate

i have all characters and if they all go kablooyey i want them back straight away lol not doing everything again for any reason whatsoever 22/5/08
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Posted on August 29, 2008 08:52

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#362

you can see them in battle you just open up the game manual character page lol

but knowing those things along with cooldown's are what make a pro a pro

Posted on August 29, 2008 08:55

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#363

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Non balance problem, but...

Kakashi Sharingan - This turn any new enemy skill that targets Kakashi that is not unique will instantly be reflected back upon the enemy who used it. This skill is invisible to enemies.

There is a problem with this skill, it can only counter non-unique skills. How is that a problem? There is simply too many character skill to remember which skill is unique. Last time it only can't counter skills that use bloodline chakra. For example I didn't knew Sakon's Gatling Punch is unique. Or Kimimaro Dance of the Camellia is unique. Those two moves cost me a game each. Ok I know you guys will say its unique because of the anime/manga. Yes I know, but I just can't remember. Another same problem is Neji(s) countering chakra skills. What exactly is chakra skill? Skill that remove, absorb chakra? Not all, Kusanagi doesn't count as chakra skill. Again to know which is chakra skill, we need to recall from the anime/manga. Thats just too much to remember just to play a game.

Solution : Either allow us to see your opponent character skills description (the static, unique etc labels) in battle, or change Sharingan to countering any skill that doesn't use bloodline chakra, but increase its cooldown to 2 or 3 turns. Its easier to remember what chakra a character uses, cause we all need to know that to build teams. We don't need to know what skill is unique or chakra to build teams.

i dont agree witht the part about kakashi but i do agree with the part about neji

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Posted on August 29, 2008 09:02

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#364

gaarayama8 that's one way to get banned

and kakashi's sharingan is fine in a way cos no one can risk using a non unique skill on him thus giving him time to set up his combo and insta kill

Posted on August 29, 2008 09:37

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A unique skill is something that only that character can do. Gatheling punch.....do you see any other character grow another hand and hit you with it...no. Do you see any other character use they're own bones to attack...no again. A simple tai attack, no matter how strong, can be done by other, thus it can be copied. Hope that answers why it didn't copy it. Also you should keep a extra window opened with the character page so that you can access they're skills easily so you can see what they are and what they do.

edit: Gaarayama & princessnick....you people know you will get banned right. losers stop spreading dumb ass shit like that. The forums are full of idiotic things like that...

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Posted on August 29, 2008 10:09

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#366

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1) Yes I know why they are unique. But I simply can't remember all the moves. And what happens if I missed certain parts of the anime and manga? Or maybe I don't watch Naruto, but I just like this game.

2) And even I did, some of the moves don't follow this rule.

Garouga & Double Headed Wolf - Only Kiba can do both, but only DHW is unique.
Water Collision Destruction - Pretty much Nidaime has this skill, but its not unique.
Cutting Whirlwind & Summoning Quick Beheading Dance - Only Temari can use both skill. Cutting Whirldwind isn't unique as well but the other is.
Air Cutter & Extreme Air Cutter - Only Zaku can use these two skill with his arm. But Air Cutter isn't unique, but Extreme Air Cutter is.
Vibrating Sound Drill - Only Dosu specially modified hand/weapon can do it, but its not unique as well.
Desert Coffin - Ok, other skills are arguable, but I can say with 100% certainty that only Garaa can use this skill but its not unique as well.

See, even if I am a total Naruto fanatic, its not reliable to rely on the anime/manga. Alot of moves are open to personal interpretation.

Posted on August 29, 2008 10:52

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#367

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i'm STILL having problem's with this fecking sasori mission i mean a six streak is NOT about skill it's about luck i'm a great player but when you're playing quick games and playing against people using broken ass deidara team's and perma stunning you and stuff and you're forced to use a puppet user it can be a bit annoying

i mean i'm constantly being chakra screwed on +4 and such and i have to complain

the hokage part i don't mind it's just tedious to be honest as there's only 3 kage's in the game and farming is not as rampant as i expected seem's like i'll never get the streak

the problem is a three streak can be done and involves skill but a six+ streak is just plain annoying as you may have to use a team that quite literally just does not work as well as you'd like and will inevitably fall to another team so why the massive focus on streak's and luck based things the chakra system just doesn't allow for it to be feasable

i'm going to be using a total random user team and i bet i'll be pwned by yet another tenten jiraiya deidara team again in no time and usually around my 5+ or 4+

i wouldn't mind having to get even 4+ streak's with a few characters for the mission but 6+ is just a nuisance

until i've unlocked the broken tier sasori (and hopefully BEFORE he get's nerfed to a normal range) i won't be tackling ANY mission's like kakashi (S) as +8 with kakashi who's just a luck based character is a pain in the posterior

reall the mission's need to be looked at as more small streak's and more win's with the character i don't think i can spend another month + of my life waiting to get handy win's off people who are not playing their top game

it's just if the characters you've to use are not part of a god like team and you get amazing chakra you're dead in the water as it is

man...6 streak with kisame is so easy...i really dont know how you are not able..i did it at jinjuuriki level at first try..only kage part is boring and hard....missions in this game are so easy..i would increase streak win to +10 +12 so game would be more fun and with more competition...+8 streak at chunin level is too much easy...

Posted on August 29, 2008 10:57

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#368

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wow kakashi (S) mengekyo get to be a blood and gen what a boost that is.

its a;ways been blood and gen

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I beat Tsunade but my Sasori mission numbers didn't change.
Tsunade is a Hokage, isn't she? It sucks if she don't..

its a "bug" tsunade and orochimary are not kage in this game also if in naruto theya re hokage and kokage..i hope it get fixed O_O

Why should orochimaru count as a Hokage? or even Kage lvl they are known as the sannin and as for now orochimaru counts as the Missing-nin Or abandoner of Konoha.

orochimaru is kokage not hokage its sound village kage :)

i's sokage thats sound

Posted on August 29, 2008 11:04

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#369

I think this nerf killed Sasori. He is a good character, but without Orochimaru, he is useless now. Everyone know he is weak while on full hp, and you can easily kill him in the end with affliction. He's one of the hardest to get character, still he seems powerless now.

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Posted on August 29, 2008 11:16

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Obviously you don't know what they are. Most of those examples are manipulation of certain element(wind - temari, zaku; water - nidaime) and certain objects(sand - gaara; sound - dosu). Anyone(if it wore to be in the anime/manga) can do those if they trained to manipulate the chakra in that manner. As for Garuga of course it's not unique because he basically just spins fast in the air.....big wow. As i said you don't understand the concept. All blood line skill(skill that are only usable by certain factions and clans(like twin behading wolf) and not your average joe) are unique. Continuing on the idea of course, yes u are right, relaying on the manga/anime is silly as many skills used here had to be changed because they have to fit in the game

. Ok the base line is I'm almost 100% sure that luapman placed the unique tag to all the unique skills. As such i don't think it should be changed.

And about this game u can't really play and enjoy it to it's full if u don't have the slightest idea about the show.

As for not remembering all the moves....heck i don't remember them either(the exact effects of course) but that is way i suggested to open the Game Manual/Characters and Skills page so that when you encounter a certain character that you don't know that much about, just click on him when you finish your round and presto......all good.

Anyways if you want to debate this further with me i suggest we take it on the pm as it's getting out of the topic.

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Posted on August 29, 2008 12:04

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#371

No, it's relevant. I also think the unique designations are sometimes arbitrary at best, and I'm forced to rely on a Notepad with complete listings of what Kakashi can reflect, and what Kakashi (S) can copy.

And suggesting that all players who use Kakashi (S) flood the character manual with hits is a bad idea. Aren't there enough bandwidth issues?

Posted on August 29, 2008 12:41

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#372

Quote by hellkaiser

you can see them in battle you just open up the game manual character page lol

but knowing those things along with cooldown's are what make a pro a pro

The step of knowing the cooldowns is one thing...but counting it is another. I tried and failed many times...it's the one thing thats stopping me becoming a pro i guess ^^

At least i can get a 6 streak no problem jks

I can understand how you feel trying to get any streak in sannin or above is quite hard. i remember when the new ladder was first implemented, I had a 70% win ratio up until jounin level, like rightnow, but after you go into sannin level the win rate drops...for me it was like 58%. And at jinkuriki level it's even harder cos everyone's a ranker and they're all good players. Well since then i reseted so that i could to the ten ten s mission( it was impossible to get 8 in a row at level 36 with ten ten for me

still not a pro haha ^^). Well, don't worry hell you'll get sasori eventually.

If i'm not mistaken the kages in n-a are

Shodaime
Nidaime
Sandaime

not oro
gaara rehab
tsunade?

Is this right? Cos i'm seeing a lot of people complaining. I can understand why it's cos no one barely has the above 3 or play the above 3. And the reason behind trying to expand the nimber of kages in n-a would be to do the sasori mission faster. I can understand the players cos it's like doing the old kakashi mission where you had to beat 50 sound nins. (There were only 4 sound nins at the time and having kaka was like having a god) I remember surrendering in the old ladder for like 30 matches in a row just to find onesoundnin

As the admins said that they'll look into it, but i do hope by the time i get to sannin level that the mission gets changed a little bit. Or some good samaritan surrenders everygame at sannin level using any of the kages ^^

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Posted on August 29, 2008 13:54

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Posted on August 29, 2008 16:08

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I really can't agree with you on this one since his preparation itself makes Sasori on of the best tank chars in game. And even when Iron sand has 2 cooldown it's still one of the greatest moves on my oppinion.

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