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  Posted on August 28, 2008 21:12
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eh,i dont like how kisame BD has his prison and sharks at 0C/d.it makes it hard to know which move to use they are both so good...maybe make sharks back to 15,3 turns,but keep the cost of 1 nin,and a c/d for that move.to avoid odd numbers but either way,he is definately getting better

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  Posted on August 28, 2008 21:18
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  Posted on August 28, 2008 22:20
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#333
think kisame bd is a little op at the moment with 0 cd but his prison is great

itachi is totally balanced at 13 dmg did his tsukuyomi get a nerf??

the problem's i have are sasori being a huge tank i mean at least make his temp hp interruptable or something lat game he's a guaranteed win i mean i originally thought that his prep would be simply that once activated at the certain hp would gain the health and such but no he keep's gaining the temp hp all the time and it's op in my opinion and all for ONE random

also i agree COMPLETELY with tsunade being considered hokage as it's simply in her character description so either change that mission requirement or her or her description or something as the only people using hokage's are either the people using sasori in his op'dness to annoy everyone or people spamming them once in a few hundred battles and bugger all people actually have the hokages

seriously i mean of all the mission's that's the one everyone is going on about and apart from the few argument's on kisame bd being a bit too good sasori is in fact BETTER than people think unless you have affliction damagers and even then he's amazing


and why the hell am i facing jinchuurikis 9/10 tmies on quick game grrrrr

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  Posted on August 28, 2008 23:43
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#334
well i restarted from bottom of ladder yo get negi(s) i found it too hard to do since i was in the high jinjuuriken range, did all oher missions there tho, and also i don't find the hokages that hard your forgeting that you can either make a team specifically that would be good against them, i'd suggest making it good vs kisame, kankuro, 1st since thats the most comon team u'll run into, then you can surrender until you find one, i was lucky someone was going around surrendering with all 3 hokages in their team but i already had 9/10 when that happened lol

and yes i agree sasori is overpowered with his temperary health, i find it increadably frustrating to kill him, and even if you have affliction guys you can never doaffliction fast enough, basicllly all the affliction does is give him 3-4 turns in his health sweetspot to absolutely slaughter your team, then yes he's dead but so is your team, and since you focused on him the other 2 still have good health
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  Posted on August 28, 2008 23:59
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@dawsoe:

I'm pretty sure he was referring to my post with that, not yours. And the reason i'm doing these posts is b/c i do think he is currently balanced but his win % will be abnormally high since he's such a lock to win against mainly ranged physical teams due to the cooldown on hmt.

Also, I'm fairly positive the current issue with kisame is EWSW, not his other moves. Its extremely conditional and often has no effect on the actual game. As opposed to previously where it would boost sharks to a 90 dmg dot and have an additional effect on top of it, its became a bit of a wasted spot. I think to make it useful now would take a bit of innovation as it can't simply be changed to "add more damage" or "decrease damage" since sharks has a 0 cooldown and would be used over that.
  Posted on August 29, 2008 00:17
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#336
Put tsunade Kage.
Revamp Jiraiyas mission.
Nerf Sasori.
Minor boost chouji.

Tsunade : Her profile says that she is the Godaime Hokage. And yet she is not considered as one
Jiraiyas mission : I explained everything 1-2 pages before.
Sasori : Hellkaiser told everything it needs to be said.
Chouji : Excuse me but with those afflictioners , ignore invulnerability , he isnt capable of nothing. I saw him only 2 times and i cant even remember when i saw him last. !


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  Posted on August 29, 2008 00:25
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Quote by zeke47
well i restarted from bottom of ladder yo get negi(s) i found it too hard to do since i was in the high jinjuuriken range, did all oher missions there tho, and also i don't find the hokages that hard your forgeting that you can either make a team specifically that would be good against them, i'd suggest making it good vs kisame, kankuro, 1st since thats the most comon team u'll run into, then you can surrender until you find one, i was lucky someone was going around surrendering with all 3 hokages in their team but i already had 9/10 when that happened lol

and yes i agree sasori is overpowered with his temperary health, i find it increadably frustrating to kill him, and even if you have affliction guys you can never doaffliction fast enough, basicllly all the affliction does is give him 3-4 turns in his health sweetspot to absolutely slaughter your team, then yes he's dead but so is your team, and since you focused on him the other 2 still have good health
thats your problem.i play sasori all the time.hes easy to beat.as long as hes at high health,he cant do much.save him for last.quite frankly,i think he doesnt have enough temp health.

kisame:i like his prison alot,but i think (like yodaz)EW is too situational.I would still make sharks aoe when its in play,but thats just me.but to prevent it being OP,add a random.its worth it

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  Posted on August 29, 2008 00:43
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#338
Quote by isOhunteR
Put tsunade Kage.
Revamp Jiraiyas mission.
Nerf Sasori.
Minor boost chouji.

Tsunade : Her profile says that she is the Godaime Hokage. And yet she is not considered as one
Jiraiyas mission : I explained everything 1-2 pages before.
Sasori : Hellkaiser told everything it needs to be said.
Chouji : Excuse me but with those afflictioners , ignore invulnerability , he isnt capable of nothing. I saw him only 2 times and i cant even remember when i saw him last. !


Actually, I see Chouji a lot, but no one uses him well...you should build teams around him, not the other way around...he's frickin' powerful if properly protected and healed...
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  Posted on August 29, 2008 01:02
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Quote by Caibre
Quote by isOhunteR
Put tsunade Kage.
Revamp Jiraiyas mission.
Nerf Sasori.
Minor boost chouji.

Tsunade : Her profile says that she is the Godaime Hokage. And yet she is not considered as one
Jiraiyas mission : I explained everything 1-2 pages before.
Sasori : Hellkaiser told everything it needs to be said.
Chouji : Excuse me but with those afflictioners , ignore invulnerability , he isnt capable of nothing. I saw him only 2 times and i cant even remember when i saw him last. !


Actually, I see Chouji a lot, but no one uses him well...you should build teams around him, not the other way around...he's frickin' powerful if properly protected and healed...
i agree,if hes anymore powerful,he'll be OP.

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  Posted on August 29, 2008 01:13
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i'm STILL having problem's with this fecking sasori mission i mean a six streak is NOT about skill it's about luck i'm a great player but when you're playing quick games and playing against people using broken ass deidara team's and perma stunning you and stuff and you're forced to use a puppet user it can be a bit annoying

i mean i'm constantly being chakra screwed on +4 and such and i have to complain

the hokage part i don't mind it's just tedious to be honest as there's only 3 kage's in the game and farming is not as rampant as i expected seem's like i'll never get the streak

the problem is a three streak can be done and involves skill but a six+ streak is just plain annoying as you may have to use a team that quite literally just does not work as well as you'd like and will inevitably fall to another team so why the massive focus on streak's and luck based things the chakra system just doesn't allow for it to be feasable

i'm going to be using a total random user team and i bet i'll be pwned by yet another tenten jiraiya deidara team again in no time and usually around my 5+ or 4+

i wouldn't mind having to get even 4+ streak's with a few characters for the mission but 6+ is just a nuisance

until i've unlocked the broken tier sasori (and hopefully BEFORE he get's nerfed to a normal range) i won't be tackling ANY mission's like kakashi (S) as +8 with kakashi who's just a luck based character is a pain in the posterior

reall the mission's need to be looked at as more small streak's and more win's with the character i don't think i can spend another month + of my life waiting to get handy win's off people who are not playing their top game

it's just if the characters you've to use are not part of a god like team and you get amazing chakra you're dead in the water as it is

i have all characters and if they all go kablooyey i want them back straight away lol not doing everything again for any reason whatsoever 22/5/08
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  Posted on August 29, 2008 01:18
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#341
Quote by hellkaiser
i'm STILL having problem's with this fecking sasori mission i mean a six streak is NOT about skill it's about luck i'm a great player but when you're playing quick games and playing against people using broken ass deidara team's and perma stunning you and stuff and you're forced to use a puppet user it can be a bit annoying

i mean i'm constantly being chakra screwed on +4 and such and i have to complain

the hokage part i don't mind it's just tedious to be honest as there's only 3 kage's in the game and farming is not as rampant as i expected seem's like i'll never get the streak

the problem is a three streak can be done and involves skill but a six+ streak is just plain annoying as you may have to use a team that quite literally just does not work as well as you'd like and will inevitably fall to another team so why the massive focus on streak's and luck based things the chakra system just doesn't allow for it to be feasable

i'm going to be using a total random user team and i bet i'll be pwned by yet another tenten jiraiya deidara team again in no time and usually around my 5+ or 4+

i wouldn't mind having to get even 4+ streak's with a few characters for the mission but 6+ is just a nuisance

until i've unlocked the broken tier sasori (and hopefully BEFORE he get's nerfed to a normal range) i won't be tackling ANY mission's like kakashi (S) as +8 with kakashi who's just a luck based character is a pain in the posterior

reall the mission's need to be looked at as more small streak's and more win's with the character i don't think i can spend another month + of my life waiting to get handy win's off people who are not playing their top game

it's just if the characters you've to use are not part of a god like team and you get amazing chakra you're dead in the water as it is


stop complaing n change ur team use chiyo naruto s n sakura s

  Posted on August 29, 2008 01:21
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i dont mean to like make a short topic and i also didnt know where to put this i just wanted luapman to see this but why isnt tsunade part of the kage's in sasori's mission
  Posted on August 29, 2008 01:27
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Quote by keyontes
Quote by hellkaiser
i'm STILL having problem's with this fecking sasori mission i mean a six streak is NOT about skill it's about luck i'm a great player but when you're playing quick games and playing against people using broken ass deidara team's and perma stunning you and stuff and you're forced to use a puppet user it can be a bit annoying

i mean i'm constantly being chakra screwed on +4 and such and i have to complain

the hokage part i don't mind it's just tedious to be honest as there's only 3 kage's in the game and farming is not as rampant as i expected seem's like i'll never get the streak

the problem is a three streak can be done and involves skill but a six+ streak is just plain annoying as you may have to use a team that quite literally just does not work as well as you'd like and will inevitably fall to another team so why the massive focus on streak's and luck based things the chakra system just doesn't allow for it to be feasable

i'm going to be using a total random user team and i bet i'll be pwned by yet another tenten jiraiya deidara team again in no time and usually around my 5+ or 4+

i wouldn't mind having to get even 4+ streak's with a few characters for the mission but 6+ is just a nuisance

until i've unlocked the broken tier sasori (and hopefully BEFORE he get's nerfed to a normal range) i won't be tackling ANY mission's like kakashi (S) as +8 with kakashi who's just a luck based character is a pain in the posterior

reall the mission's need to be looked at as more small streak's and more win's with the character i don't think i can spend another month + of my life waiting to get handy win's off people who are not playing their top game

it's just if the characters you've to use are not part of a god like team and you get amazing chakra you're dead in the water as it is


stop complaing n change ur team use chiyo naruto s n sakura s


i'm complaining because i see a problem and i've had enough of it and that team you're suggesting is a bit slow and clashy and fall's victim to lot's of strategies

i have all characters and if they all go kablooyey i want them back straight away lol not doing everything again for any reason whatsoever 22/5/08
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  Posted on August 29, 2008 01:48
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#344
actually i didn't have a problem with sasori excpet the kage part...chiyo, sakura (s), and choji works well though. I'm actually glad the missions are more difficult, just makes it more enjoyable imo. Also, +6 and +8 streaks are really not luck based, you can make them happen pretty often, even when forced to use certain characters.
  Posted on August 29, 2008 01:59
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well i keep getting chakra screwed and i'm using a sound strategy it's just having to consistantly win +6 is a pain in the backside when i keep getting paired against people who don't make mistakes at all meaning it's merely chakra draw's that make or break a game

and there's nothing enjoyable about constantly playing your a game only to get chakra screwed and starting all over again

really i've played like 8-9 jinchuuriki and i'm level 31 i deliberately stayed off the ladder so that i wouldn't have to face jinchu's and yet i get paired against them because of the long streak

i have all characters and if they all go kablooyey i want them back straight away lol not doing everything again for any reason whatsoever 22/5/08
naruto arena the manga held back temporarily 06/05/08