The 5th Altar - Page 186

unless you got good chakra luck or a drainer his instant is damn near useless

wtf....leave shodia alone he's the only hokage you havent sent straight to you know where yet theres nothing wrong with him

A rework doesn't necessarily mean a nerf. For the chakra that he uses, his pretty weak anyway, (still better than Nidaime) but I'd rather have something new than this bland version of a weak Haku.

why does nidai keep getting nerfs?whats wrong with him?!?in most peoples' eyes hes waaaay underpowered.Even mine.

Was yoroi really that high?lolanyway,i dont think it will affect him much.

Demon Bros:hes fine.Ive always liked him

Yamato:whhhhhy!!!!?????!!!!my yamato team!!!!!

tsunade:uuuum.....25%reduction?why so low?her summon is practically useless now besides the heal:push

wtf....leave shodia alone he's the only hokage you havent sent straight to you know where yet theres nothing wrong with him

Sasuke Uchiha isnt strong enough he only does 30 damage then with sharingan 45 damage and chidori does 60 but why dont you put chidori normal 40 but you dont need sharingan thats wat i mean of isnt strong enough

DEMON BROTHERS need a nerf
NIDAIME need a boost
KANKURO need a nerf
SASORI need a boost
YAMATO need a rework
CHIYO change of skill(s)
Naruto(s) Need something
Release the movie charecteres like for naruto in the movie --> naruto(m)
(m) = movie
(s) = Shippuuden
Shizune need a boost a skill shold dmg all enemies ( the aff) and cost 2 ranom 10aff for 2 turns
Sasuke need a nerf on Chidori
Tsunade need a boost
Shino bug wall shold req. 2 blood chakra
Kiba double headed wolf shold have 35 destructible defense instead of 30 dmg reduction
Kakashi(s) need a skill change .. (team work) replaced by Raikiri or a skill that conter an atake pr something

When soul-arena is released you release as many charecteres as possible

well, i still stand by what i was saying about ino a while ago. she is useless in 1vs1 combat, she requires 2 gen chakra to do any damage to her opponent because mbd will only stun and not damage which means it only stalls.

I dont really know what to suggest besides possibly making mbd hit any random enemy as opposed to just a different one.

Anyway, woot, first relevant post!

some changes that i was thinking
may help xD

Chakra Exchane:
# Change 4 chakras random for 1 of your choive or 4 of the same chakra for 1 of your choice

Uzumaki Naruto:
# Shadows Clones-> Piercing damage deals normally

Haruno Sakura:
#Inner Sakura-> Sakura gains 20% damage reduction

Uchiha Sasuke:
#Sharingan-> It's affliction

Nara Shikamaru:
#Meditate-> Shadow Bind may be used the following 5 turns.
#Shadow Bind->
Classes: Unique (becase it's a bloodline)

Tenten:
#Twin Rising Dragons Trap-> Now deals 5 damage (because it's a taijutsu and will be like Zabuza)

Dosu Kinuta:
#Sound Manipulation->
Chakra required: 1 ninjutsu

Momochi Zabuza:
#Great Waterfall Technique-> Zabuza stuns one enemy for two turns dealing 10 damage each turn.

Oboro:
#Underground Ambush->
Chakra required: 1 taijutsu and 1 random

Kidoumaru:
#Spider Web-> Any enemy who uses a melee skill will become stunned for 2 turns. This skill is invisible.
Chakra required: 1 bloodline and 1 random / Cooldown: 3

Sakon:
#Rest-> Sakon heals 35

Tayuya:
#Demonic Flute Illusion-> Tayuya stuns all enemies for 2 turns.
Chakra required: 1 genjustu 1 bloodline and 1 random or 2 genjutsus and 1 random

Kaguya Kimimaro:
#Dance of the Clematis-> Deals 45 damage
#Dance of the Camellia-> Kimimaro takes 5 affliction damage

Umino Iruka:
#Shuriken Throw-> Iruka does 35 damage to one enemy
Chakra required: 1 taijutsu and 1 random


Mitarashi Anko:
#Twin Snakes Mutual Death-> Deals 75 damage to the target and Anko takes 25 damage. The both stays stuned for 1 round. Requires Dual Pin but when this skill is used Duapl Pin ends.
Chakra required: 1 ninjutsu and 1 random

Hatake Kakashi:
#Raikiri-> If used 1 turn after Sharingan does 5 more damage

Maito Gai:
#Counter Punch-> Affects one enemy. If that enemy uses a melee skill the following turn on Gai or any of his allies, that skill will be countered and that enemy will take 20 damage. The target of this skill is invisible.

Uchiha Itachi:
#Tsukuyomi-> Itachi stuns one enemy for 3 turns dealing 10 damage each turn. This skill will end if that enemy or one of their allies uses a skill on them and if Itachi takes damage (in the same turn).

Sai (S):
#Adaptive Painting-> For 4 turns Great Beast Painting Lion will does 10 more damage and Great Beast Painting Snake will stuns for 2 turns.
Chakra required: 1 genjutsu

Hatake Kakashi (S):
#Jutsu Imitation-> affects one enemy. If that enemy uses a new skill Kakashi copies it. The following 4 turns this skill is replaced with the copied skill. The copied skill costs 1 random chakra. Jutsu Imitation copies all skills except unique.

Yamato (S):
#Sanctuary Enlightenment Enclosing Palm-> Does 35 damage

Rock Lee (S):
#Power of Youth-> 1 turn
Cooldown: 3

Maito Gai (S):
#View Gate Release-> Now Ignores piercing damage too. He Takes 12 affliction per turn.

Kazekage Gaara (S):
#Desert Missile-> Does 10 damage (not piercing)
#Desert Prison-> Does 15 damage

Itachi Body Double (S):
#Genjutsu Reversal-> For 2 turns if any enemy uses a skill which is non-unique on Itachi Body Double (S), he will reflect that skill onto the enemy who used it. This skill is invisible.
Chakra required: 1 genjutsu 1 bloodline and 1 random
#Goukakyuu no Jutsu-> Does 30 damagel to all enemies.
Cooldown: 0

you are wrong...they should stay how it is

There is no need for these changes.

Naruto - fine, no need to let his damage reduction be piercing, he's still one of the best defenses against the mob of piercers.

Sakura - again she's nice and balanced, a good stunner,semi-tank no need to nerf her.

Uchiha Sasuke - Making Sharigan Affliction would be nice but there is no real reason to put it back, Sasuke has his weaknesses, like piercers, affliction, Damage Reduction Stunning, skills that prevent improving skills, and unpierceable defense.

Shikamaru - there is not a good reason to increase his prep, he's fine. And Just so you know, Shadow Bind is not a bloodline it is a move taught by a clan member and is not from your blood.

Ten-ten, ok let's compare Zabuza to Ten-ten, Trap is one Tai, Waterfall is One Nin one Ran, Trap has a lesser cool down, ten-ten already has a good aoe-attack for Aoe-stun teams Zabuza does not.

Dosu - He's too slow as is and making his prep Nin would be overkill, he's not unbalanced at all.

Zabuza, His current waterfall let's him stay unique, and the one proposed is to strong, Haku can do that without damage for the same cost.

Oborro - Changing his Underground ambush is not really going to help it's his preps tendency to be easily canceled.

Kidomaru - Stun anyone who uses a melee skill? Do you really want to kill Naruto,Kakashi,Sakura,Lee,Gai? or did you mean Stun anyone who uses a melee skill on Kidomaru? if so then haven't the melee skills been nerfed enough? I mean No one is going to use a melee skill on Kidomaru until he uses it and they can tell that he used it no nerf or change is necessary.

Sakon - No the proposed heal is way too much. It is still good which is why the Cd was increased, no boost is needed.

Tayuya - Stun everyone for 2 turns without a prep? Overboost! Even for three chakra still too much!

Kimmimaro - no change is necessary, none at all!.

Iruka - 20 damage for one tai is fine as is no change is necessary, making it 1tai 1ran and 35 damage would make it too costly.

Anko - So, Make her over powered and completly ruin her uniqueness? no thank you! She is fine as a Damage increaser,

Kakashi - No Comment

Gai - Please don't nerf him like that! He's fine no need to hurt his counter anymore thank you!

Kakashi (S)- fine please do not change him.

I don't have the time to comment on any of the others, I am sure someone else will though.

if u use him with natruto S u got the istant

25% reduction is low, but I don't think 45hp AoE heal is low. No other AoE can deal 45 damage instantly for three chakra except Deidara AoE and he can only use it once. I am not comparing moves here, but I am just showing the value of 1 chakra. I always believes Tsunade AoE heal is very strong for just using 3 chakra. The only moves that can do more damage per chakra are DoT AoEs, like Kidoumaru but those are slow.
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Except Shodai is already quite weak and underused especially when you compare him to Nidaime. I remember his winrate was less than 50%, there no reason to nerf him, so I am fully believe this is a boost.

A rework doesn't necessarily mean a nerf. For the chakra that he uses, his pretty weak anyway, (still better than Nidaime) but I'd rather have something new than this bland version of a weak Haku.

some changes that i was thinking
may help xD

Chakra Exchane:
# Change 4 chakras random for 1 of your choive or 4 of the same chakra for 1 of your choice

Uzumaki Naruto:
# Shadows Clones-> Piercing damage deals normally

Haruno Sakura:
#Inner Sakura-> Sakura gains 20% damage reduction

Uchiha Sasuke:
#Sharingan-> It's affliction

Nara Shikamaru:
#Meditate-> Shadow Bind may be used the following 5 turns.
#Shadow Bind->
Classes: Unique (becase it's a bloodline)

Tenten:
#Twin Rising Dragons Trap-> Now deals 5 damage (because it's a taijutsu and will be like Zabuza)

Dosu Kinuta:
#Sound Manipulation->
Chakra required: 1 ninjutsu

Momochi Zabuza:
#Great Waterfall Technique-> Zabuza stuns one enemy for two turns dealing 10 damage each turn.

Oboro:
#Underground Ambush->
Chakra required: 1 taijutsu and 1 random

Kidoumaru:
#Spider Web-> Any enemy who uses a melee skill will become stunned for 2 turns. This skill is invisible.
Chakra required: 1 bloodline and 1 random / Cooldown: 3

Sakon:
#Rest-> Sakon heals 35

Tayuya:
#Demonic Flute Illusion-> Tayuya stuns all enemies for 2 turns.
Chakra required: 1 genjustu 1 bloodline and 1 random or 2 genjutsus and 1 random

Kaguya Kimimaro:
#Dance of the Clematis-> Deals 45 damage
#Dance of the Camellia-> Kimimaro takes 5 affliction damage

Umino Iruka:
#Shuriken Throw-> Iruka does 35 damage to one enemy
Chakra required: 1 taijutsu and 1 random


Mitarashi Anko:
#Twin Snakes Mutual Death-> Deals 75 damage to the target and Anko takes 25 damage. The both stays stuned for 1 round. Requires Dual Pin but when this skill is used Duapl Pin ends.
Chakra required: 1 ninjutsu and 1 random

Hatake Kakashi:
#Raikiri-> If used 1 turn after Sharingan does 5 more damage

Maito Gai:
#Counter Punch-> Affects one enemy. If that enemy uses a melee skill the following turn on Gai or any of his allies, that skill will be countered and that enemy will take 20 damage. The target of this skill is invisible.

Uchiha Itachi:
#Tsukuyomi-> Itachi stuns one enemy for 3 turns dealing 10 damage each turn. This skill will end if that enemy or one of their allies uses a skill on them and if Itachi takes damage (in the same turn).

Sai (S):
#Adaptive Painting-> For 4 turns Great Beast Painting Lion will does 10 more damage and Great Beast Painting Snake will stuns for 2 turns.
Chakra required: 1 genjutsu

Hatake Kakashi (S):
#Jutsu Imitation-> affects one enemy. If that enemy uses a new skill Kakashi copies it. The following 4 turns this skill is replaced with the copied skill. The copied skill costs 1 random chakra. Jutsu Imitation copies all skills except unique.

Yamato (S):
#Sanctuary Enlightenment Enclosing Palm-> Does 35 damage

Rock Lee (S):
#Power of Youth-> 1 turn
Cooldown: 3

Maito Gai (S):
#View Gate Release-> Now Ignores piercing damage too. He Takes 12 affliction per turn.

Kazekage Gaara (S):
#Desert Missile-> Does 10 damage (not piercing)
#Desert Prison-> Does 15 damage

Itachi Body Double (S):
#Genjutsu Reversal-> For 2 turns if any enemy uses a skill which is non-unique on Itachi Body Double (S), he will reflect that skill onto the enemy who used it. This skill is invisible.
Chakra required: 1 genjutsu 1 bloodline and 1 random
#Goukakyuu no Jutsu-> Does 30 damagel to all enemies.
Cooldown: 0