Fuyuzuki
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I personally see "it" as fanservice when there's those unnecessary pantsu views, clothes exploding or depending upon the show another male harassing male or the same with females.
Of course. The fanservice alone in the series isn't gonna get it far. Hopefully at least.
I can give you perfect example of Kanokon.
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The series is full of nudity, suggestive situations and highly ecchi scenes in general.
The little plot the series had was thrown into well At first episode, we meet Kouta & Chizuru. Chizuru for some reason has fallen for Kouta and throughout the series she attempts to seduce Kouta at any costs. Then around fourth or fifth episode there comes another girl, who also has fallen for Kouta, even without seeing him. Think it was purely by smell. Anyhow, now there's one girl with F-size breasts who looks like "real" high school girl and is a fox deity.
Then we have the another girl. She's to put it bluntly, loli. She's flat, short, looks younger than she is and she's just as horny and as much into seducing Kouta as Chizuru.
Surely there are couple "OK" scenes that really work out. But overall the series is filled with useless "Oh look she's rubbing her boobies on him" scenes.
Anyhow, in the last episode, they throw basically everything out of window and just say "Well you be his girlfriend and you shall be his mistress" to what Chizuru simply agrees. I mean, like what the hell? For the last five to eight episodes Chizuru has done everything she could to keep Kouta for himself, just so she could say "Okay you may be his mistress" in the last episode?
Now I understand that this series was probably made solely on purpose of nosebleed.
I could go for another "wall of text" about Ikkitousen, but I'll save that for later. Maybe.
To put it shortly and effectively, Fanservice is form of art. Just by tossing in random pantsu views and exploding clothing doesn't make it good or does it even necessarily improve the series. At best fanservice can be a reminder to the viewer not to take the show too seriously, but when it is tossed into your face non-stop in every episode it just simply loses it's glory.
Ah so great fansubs.
To me it is love and hate relationship. I love it simply because it's free. I don't have to spend a single cent for anything. But. That also means that I have to put up with bad quality, rushed subs, several different formats which causes one to get several different video players and whatnot. Lately there's been this new format that causes my computer to lag up the movie/series, a lot. Last time I met this issue was on Bounen no Xamdou episode 2. Missed a lot of action scenes and had to watch several scenes several times because either the audio or video itself was lagging, coming too early or just jammed.
Then the quality of fansubbers..probably one of the most popular one is this;
Quote by Anime: Ghost in the Shell – Stand Alone Complex - Anime Junkies
Are you aware of the frequent occurrences of the mass naked child events within the country?
Need I say more? So I would say that I do support fansubs as individual. The companies loses basically nothing whenever I download certain episode of anime from internet. The odds of them actually bringing those animes that watch to my native language or even bring them to the local malls from US, Australia, you name it is astronomically small. But either way, that does not mean I don't buy anime - or manga for that matter. I dare to say that if it wasn't for the little collector living within me, I probably wouldn't be using at least this much money on anime, manga and this hobby of mine in general. So, to put it short, I do support fansubs as individual. But I would much rather have the DVD box of the series. I would not show an fansubbed movie or series in a video night, assume I were to hold one.
Oh. Then I get to my one of my favorite subjects. "The series others love, but I can't understand why"
Elfen Lied - The anime adaption.
What can I really say about Elfen lied?
It's violent, contains nudity and slight incest.
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Anyhow, to skip the plot, I'll just type in my final thoughts of the series and what I can't understand about the hype and love towards this anime.
Okay so in the end, she was rejected, she was bullied, she was discriminated. Okay so it does make sense why she would go on rampage to kill everyone and still have motive for it. Humans experimented on them, imprisoned them and even used them to fight each other. I would say they deserved it.
But in the end, I don't see the same "glory" around this series as majority of it's fans does. I've come to believe that majority of the fans don't even understand what's really going on in Elfen lied, other than one girl massacring loads of humans.
I could understand if someone feels this series was / is important to them because of the themes the series is influenced by, but honestly, majority of the fans simply like it due the massive amount of blood and nudity is shown in the series.
So that ends my, well, rant about Elfen lied. That goes little off towards the ending anyhow..
Well, another series is Death-note.
Everyone says it's the best ever and says that everyone who says "I didn't like Death-note" didn't "get it" - The same thing happens when you go on Eva forums and say you didn't like it. You're bound to get at least one person saying "You just didn't get it"
What I think that majority of those fans don't get what they're saying.
Anyone who's capable of bringing out an opinion of his/her own has definitely "gotten it" and probably has grasped more of the series than you did.
So, let's talk of Death-note then.
We have this guy, who finds Death-note and sees that he's capable of killing anyone who's name and face he knows. I suppose is completely normal for one to try out the note out of curiosity. But from where exactly does Light's motives for making new world come from? His friends, family, relatives, not a single important person to him was killed until after he started using the Note. He really doesn't come out as a person who would really care for others either. This all leads to Light being an collegeboy with god complex. To follow Light's actions and his battle with L was interesting and great.
There's quite much of complex dialog - or so I recall there being, that goes between the two of these. Which does require the viewer to think a little to be aware of what's going on where and when. But does the majority of fans who say "You didn't get it" themselves get what's going on? Going by the users of this forum, not many of them does.
Even thought the following statement is heavily opinionated, I believe it is also very much correct. Death-note is not the best anime ever. It may be the best anime YOU HAVE SEEN, but by any means it is not the best ever. Just because the series requires slightly higher level of intelligence to understand than Naruto, Dragon ball, Bleach or Inuyasha doesn't actually make it best. Better series are constantly under development and most certainly you may yell "DN BEST EVER" for now, but if you were to actually watch more than just the mainstream series, you'd be shocked of the amount of series there are better than Death-note.
So, I don't really understand where does the "Death-note is best ever" statements come from. Nor do I understand the people who think of this way. By any means I don't mean Death-note is crap. It's good. Better than average shonen anime, but due some bad plot twists it doesn't reach it's highest potential. In my opinion at least.
I suppose this ends my rant here.
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Topic: Manga and Anime Fan Club™
Posted on August 1, 2008 13:23
