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  Posted on February 25, 2008 01:51
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I love Itachi's nerf. Now I don't have to worry about him. Although I dispise the fact that he now is so much weaker than he used to be, and is, once again, a character ruined by Team 7, I hope his numbers stabilize. I think this might be too much of a nerf though, seeing as if you stun him halfway through Ameterasu it automatically stops anyhow. I'll wait for the numbers till I make MY final decision, but if it does turn out it was a bit much, I'd like to re-bring up the 25 undefendable a turn alternative.
As long as you have a stun, Itachi's completely useless now. o_o
I stil think that when compared to most other Genjutsu based moves Itachi's Tsukyomi is incredibly weak.
50 undefendable for 2 gen, but requires prep.
Vs Kurenai and Ino's 25 damage over 4 rounds, no prep, and the stun last longer.


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  Posted on February 25, 2008 01:52
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To me i think Itachi's chakra usage should be changed. Instead of liek 2 of one chakra maybe make it one of the chakra and one random. For examppe amaretsu requires like 2 nin for 30 damage aoe? thats much like tenten but she can do 30 aoe with one tai one random. Why cant itachi?


Yes but its 2 Nin for 30 Dmg over two rounds undefendable

But 2 Nin + Random could mabey leave them unable to defend fron one round anyways

Gaara Rehab has a 2 Nin + 1 Random for a 15 with a stun

Well: The opinion was blown to hell, Lol..Nerfed to 30 dmg over two round with no defend

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  Posted on February 25, 2008 01:54
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I love Itachi's nerf. Now I don't have to worry about him. Although I dispise the fact that he now is so much weaker than he used to be, and is, once again, a character ruined by Team 7, I hope his numbers stabilize. I think this might be too much of a nerf though, seeing as if you stun him halfway through Ameterasu it automatically stops anyhow. I'll wait for the numbers till I make MY final decision, but if it does turn out it was a bit much, I'd like to re-bring up the 25 undefendable a turn alternative.
As long as you have a stun, Itachi's completely useless now. o_o
I stil think that when compared to most other Genjutsu based moves Itachi's Tsukyomi is incredibly weak.
50 undefendable for 2 gen, but requires prep.
Vs Kurenai and Ino's 25 damage over 4 rounds, no prep, and the stun last longer.


Um... it's 2 gen for them to STUN. Then it's a random a turn for both of them to deal 25 a turn, that's if they aren't stunned during it. Itachi deals the same damage to stun ratio for a cheaper cost, all in one turn I might add.

Itachi is just as powerful as before, just be more intellectual with how you use him.
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  Posted on February 25, 2008 01:55
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To me i think Itachi's chakra usage should be changed. Instead of liek 2 of one chakra maybe make it one of the chakra and one random. For examppe amaretsu requires like 2 nin for 30 damage aoe? thats much like tenten but she can do 30 aoe with one tai one random. Why cant itachi?


Yes but its 2 Nin for 30 Dmg over two rounds undefendable

But 2 Nin + Random could mabey leave them unable to defend fron one round anyways

Gaara Rehab has a 2 Nin + 1 Random for a 15 with a stun

Well: The opinion was blown to shit, Lol..Nerfed to 30 dmg over two round with no defend

umm, he's still 60 over 2, just not undefendable, why do people keep getting that mixed up?
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  Posted on February 25, 2008 01:56
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OOHHHHH its undefendable... my bad i haven't unlocked Itachi YET. yeah also Maybe you should mangekyou sharingan have another effect. Otherwise it is just like normal sharingan, and nothing is special about it. Like maybe when you use Mangekyou sharingan gives more reduction but make itachi lose some health for every move he does like in the series.

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  Posted on February 25, 2008 01:56
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To me i think Itachi's chakra usage should be changed. Instead of liek 2 of one chakra maybe make it one of the chakra and one random. For examppe amaretsu requires like 2 nin for 30 damage aoe? thats much like tenten but she can do 30 aoe with one tai one random. Why cant itachi?


Yes but its 2 Nin for 30 Dmg over two rounds undefendable

But 2 Nin + Random could mabey leave them unable to defend fron one round anyways

Gaara Rehab has a 2 Nin + 1 Random for a 15 with a stun

Well: The opinion was blown to shit, Lol..Nerfed to 30 dmg over two round with no defend

umm, he's still 60 over 2, just not undefendable, why do people keep getting that mixed up?


Well i meant without the Not able to defend part

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  Posted on February 25, 2008 01:57
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OOHHHHH its undefendable... my bad i haven't unlocked Itachi YET. yeah also Maybe you should mangekyou sharingan have another effect. Otherwise it is just like normal sharingan, and nothing is special about it. Like maybe when you use Mangekyou sharingan gives more reduction but make itachi lose some health for every move he does like in the series.
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  Posted on February 25, 2008 01:57
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Well now its defendable i think the cooldown should be lowered now that amaterasu is defendable

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  Posted on February 25, 2008 01:58
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To me i think Itachi's chakra usage should be changed. Instead of liek 2 of one chakra maybe make it one of the chakra and one random. For examppe amaretsu requires like 2 nin for 30 damage aoe? thats much like tenten but she can do 30 aoe with one tai one random. Why cant itachi?


Yes but its 2 Nin for 30 Dmg over two rounds undefendable

But 2 Nin + Random could mabey leave them unable to defend fron one round anyways

Gaara Rehab has a 2 Nin + 1 Random for a 15 with a stun

Well: The opinion was blown to shit, Lol..Nerfed to 30 dmg over two round with no defend

umm, he's still 60 over 2, just not undefendable, why do people keep getting that mixed up?


Well i meant without the Not able to defend part

ummm... huh?
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  Posted on February 25, 2008 01:58
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To me i think Itachi's chakra usage should be changed. Instead of liek 2 of one chakra maybe make it one of the chakra and one random. For examppe amaretsu requires like 2 nin for 30 damage aoe? thats much like tenten but she can do 30 aoe with one tai one random. Why cant itachi?


Yes but its 2 Nin for 30 Dmg over two rounds undefendable

But 2 Nin + Random could mabey leave them unable to defend fron one round anyways

Gaara Rehab has a 2 Nin + 1 Random for a 15 with a stun

Well: The opinion was blown to shit, Lol..Nerfed to 30 dmg over two round with no defend

umm, he's still 60 over 2, just not undefendable, why do people keep getting that mixed up?


Well i meant without the Not able to defend part

Blargh, double negatives T_T

In the end we still need to see if the numbers stack up or not. Remember how many people jumped out of their seats at the Tayuya nerf? That's old news now, so I think this might fall into the same category if it isn't an actual problem backed by numbers.
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  Posted on February 25, 2008 02:00
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  Posted on February 25, 2008 02:01
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To me i think Itachi's chakra usage should be changed. Instead of liek 2 of one chakra maybe make it one of the chakra and one random. For examppe amaretsu requires like 2 nin for 30 damage aoe? thats much like tenten but she can do 30 aoe with one tai one random. Why cant itachi?


Yes but its 2 Nin for 30 Dmg over two rounds undefendable

But 2 Nin + Random could mabey leave them unable to defend fron one round anyways

Gaara Rehab has a 2 Nin + 1 Random for a 15 with a stun

Well: The opinion was blown to shit, Lol..Nerfed to 30 dmg over two round with no defend

umm, he's still 60 over 2, just not undefendable, why do people keep getting that mixed up?


Well i meant without the Not able to defend part

Blargh, double negatives T_T

In the end we still need to see if the numbers stack up or not. Remember how many people jumped out of their seats at the Tayuya nerf? That's old news now, so I think this might fall into the same category if it isn't an actual problem backed by numbers.
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Ok I meant now that Itachi's Ama aoe (60 Dmg) Did do 60 Undefendable dmg and now that he was nerfed My opinion went to hell anyways..On the subject of itachi

I think his mangekou's Cooldown should be lowered by one since he was nerfed of his truly good move..

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  Posted on February 25, 2008 02:04
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Itachi shouldnt have gotten nerfed bottem line he was the king of n-a & it was diffcult to use his moves any because of the cost & amaetsu is like the most powerful ninjutsu move it can burn threw toads mouth but now toads mouth can effect it Luap i dont think Masashi Kishimoto will be happy this goes against the anime/manga itachis move can burn threw any thing.

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  Posted on February 25, 2008 02:04
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I love Itachi's nerf. Now I don't have to worry about him. Although I dispise the fact that he now is so much weaker than he used to be, and is, once again, a character ruined by Team 7, I hope his numbers stabilize. I think this might be too much of a nerf though, seeing as if you stun him halfway through Ameterasu it automatically stops anyhow. I'll wait for the numbers till I make MY final decision, but if it does turn out it was a bit much, I'd like to re-bring up the 25 undefendable a turn alternative.
As long as you have a stun, Itachi's completely useless now. o_o
I stil think that when compared to most other Genjutsu based moves Itachi's Tsukyomi is incredibly weak.
50 undefendable for 2 gen, but requires prep.
Vs Kurenai and Ino's 25 damage over 4 rounds, no prep, and the stun last longer.


Um... it's 2 gen for them to STUN. Then it's a random a turn for both of them to deal 25 a turn, that's if they aren't stunned during it. Itachi deals the same damage to stun ratio for a cheaper cost, all in one turn I might add.

Itachi is just as powerful as before, just be more intellectual with how you use him.
It's still a shorter stun. And in most cases, stun is preferable to damage, IMO.


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  Posted on February 25, 2008 02:07
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I honestly don't know how Itachi got nerfed, I thought his winning percentages were fine?

Anyways, before this nerf, we all knew itachi was one of the most "attacking characters in the game." And also he was one of the "Strongest" characters overall. But this nerf made him one of the weaker ones, and also made his style no longer. Now Itachi isn't the full powered cannon. He's basically only known for his Tsukuyomi. That's ruining his style. Itachi isn't known as an drainer, support character etc. He was just known as the cannon, now he's not any style. Overall this wasn't an good balance change Luap, I'd think if anything to remove his reduction on his mangekou, if you had to nerf Itachi.

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