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  Posted on December 8, 2017 22:47
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Gaara's sand coffin skill is supposed to stun all the 'non-mental skills' of the enemy, that includes invulnerability. Today I was playing against Gaara and he stunned me (Ino) using sand coffin, when my turn came all my skills were stunned inculding my invulnerability.....This triggered a memeory of a match I had against someone using Gaara in his team. All I remember is the enemy Gaara stunning my character (I can't remember the character) and then my turn comes and I'm able to use invulnerability on that turn to defend against his sand burial next turn. I can't remember what character I was using but this could be a glitch....unless there is an invulnerbility skill that is mental.

*I've only unlocked uptill missing-nin (if this narrows it down).
  Posted on December 8, 2017 23:05
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invulnerability can have mental classes. Off the top of my head Shikamaru, and Kin have such classes.

Not that it matters since Sand Coffin makes the target unable to go invulnerable.
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  Posted on December 8, 2017 23:18
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No, Sand coffin only makes characters from uing non-mental skills. Like Gaara's Sand coffin can't stun Ino or Inochi's skills. So in turn Ino can stun Gaara after he has used Sand coffin on her.
  Posted on December 8, 2017 23:40
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No, Sand coffin only makes characters from uing non-mental skills. Like Gaara's Sand coffin can't stun Ino or Inochi's skills. So in turn Ino can stun Gaara after he has used Sand coffin on her.

That's right but Sand Coffin does make the target unable to become invulnerable.
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  Posted on December 8, 2017 23:46
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Xeter wrote:
No, Sand coffin only makes characters from uing non-mental skills. Like Gaara's Sand coffin can't stun Ino or Inochi's skills. So in turn Ino can stun Gaara after he has used Sand coffin on her.

That's right but Sand Coffin does make the target unable to become invulnerable.
True.
I just came from a game that I was using Gaara against Izumo and Kotetsu. I got his-one of their tag team down to 10 health (He hadn't used tag team so it was his first character) and while doing so I also used Gaara's sand coffin on them (on the same turn) to prevent him from using tag team so i could kill him next turn. Their tag team is a non-mental skill but he uses it anyway on his turn, while sand coffin is on izumo and kotetsu saving them.
Either the person who balances has to clarify that its a mental skill or call this a bug and fix it.
These are the things I was talking about clarifying in my last thread.
  Posted on December 9, 2017 01:05
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Xeter wrote:
Gayyshit1 wrote:
Xeter wrote:
No, Sand coffin only makes characters from uing non-mental skills. Like Gaara's Sand coffin can't stun Ino or Inochi's skills. So in turn Ino can stun Gaara after he has used Sand coffin on her.

That's right but Sand Coffin does make the target unable to become invulnerable.
True.
I just came from a game that I was using Gaara against Izumo and Kotetsu. I got his-one of their tag team down to 10 health (He hadn't used tag team so it was his first character) and while doing so I also used Gaara's sand coffin on them (on the same turn) to prevent him from using tag team so i could kill him next turn. Their tag team is a non-mental skill but he uses it anyway on his turn, while sand coffin is on izumo and kotetsu saving them.
Either the person who balances has to clarify that its a mental skill or call this a bug and fix it.
These are the things I was talking about clarifying in my last thread.
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  Posted on December 9, 2017 05:34
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Xeter wrote:
Gayyshit1 wrote:
Xeter wrote:
No, Sand coffin only makes characters from uing non-mental skills. Like Gaara's Sand coffin can't stun Ino or Inochi's skills. So in turn Ino can stun Gaara after he has used Sand coffin on her.

That's right but Sand Coffin does make the target unable to become invulnerable.
True.
I just came from a game that I was using Gaara against Izumo and Kotetsu. I got his-one of their tag team down to 10 health (He hadn't used tag team so it was his first character) and while doing so I also used Gaara's sand coffin on them (on the same turn) to prevent him from using tag team so i could kill him next turn. Their tag team is a non-mental skill but he uses it anyway on his turn, while sand coffin is on izumo and kotetsu saving them.
Either the person who balances has to clarify that its a mental skill or call this a bug and fix it.
These are the things I was talking about clarifying in my last thread.

Tag team is only classified as unique and instant. It can't be stunned by non-mental stuns or non-anything stuns. Since it has no damage/range class, it's not affected by them. Only straight stuns can affect it. Also, Gaara vs I&K is just a bad idea. Once he uses tag team, he'd have to die from Sand Burial 2 times in order to be fully dead.
  Posted on December 9, 2017 10:37
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Tag team is only classified as unique and instant. It can't be stunned by non-mental stuns or non-anything stuns. Since it has no damage/range class, it's not affected by them. Only straight stuns canSince it has no damage/range class, it's not affected by them. Only affect it. Also, Gaara vs I&K is just a bad idea. Once he uses tag team, he'd have to die from Sand Burial 2 times in order to be fully dead

See, thats where I'm confused. I have the idea that characters can have mental and/or non-mental skill(s) and if I use a stun and that stun says it stuns all non-mental skills then if a character doesn't have mental written at the bottom (in grey) on his skill then it must be non-mental.
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Since it has no damage/range class, it's not affected by them
-->Is this a rule in the manual on how to play the game, if it is then im in the wrong. If the rule isn't there then I (just like everyone else) have to learn from experience and have no knowledge of it before going into a game. Either this game is have knowledge before hand and face opponents or gain experience on how the game works by playing through it.
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Also, Gaara vs I&K is just a bad idea. Once he uses tag team, he'd have to die from Sand Burial 2 times in order to be fully dead.

True, but my opponent just left after It was my Gaara vs His Izumo&Kotetsu giving me a free win, which led on to me completing my missions. I have 4 ninjutsu chakara and I had calculated how long it will take to kill both his izumo and kotetsu I was building up becasue my opponet wouldn't finish me off but he just let me win. I had 8/9 chakara in total when he let me win (surrendered).
  Posted on December 9, 2017 11:07
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Nah, no worries I try not to rage. I know the game still needs a bit of balance changes at different levels of play, like Itachi is a powerful character that is very difficult to beat. Kimimaro shouldn't be able to do 40 damage piercing invulnerability and stun at the same time, this makes the probability of any one using Rock Lee more likely to lose (depends on the team). Say I'm using rock lee and protected my self for a few turn to build up my taijutsu chakara and now I have enough to pull of fifth gate opening and be able to get the move that does 100 damage the following turn but the opponent uses his Kimimaro to not only break through my invulnerability and do 40 damage leaving me with 10 health but also a stun that takes away my invulnerability. So now your Rock Lee is stunned and damaged and can't become invulnerable and looking at it in the long term, the fact that you waited and plotted but you still lost because the characters are designed that way. This is a generic scenario.
The ideal scenario would be baiting Kimimaro's Dance of Clematis and letting it go on a cooldown (1 turn) and activating your fifth gate in that time period to be able to do damage/ insta kill. So now you have fifth gate active and Kimimaro is on a cooldown AND you will be able to use your 100 damage next turn (In this time period you can get stunned by tayuya or Haku also giving your opponents kimimaro enough time to remove cooldown and use his Dance Of Clematis or stall one more turn to make all their characters invulnerable for the next making the use of your fifth gate obsolete) or just use a damage reduction character to keep all his teammates alive but near death and then watch kimimaro stun you the next turn also doing 40 on top of the 50 you've committed to.
  Posted on December 9, 2017 16:02
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Will be fixed soon
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  Posted on December 9, 2017 16:26
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Well, its up to the devs what they decide to do.
  Posted on December 10, 2017 01:53
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im working on it
  Posted on December 10, 2017 19:29
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I'll fix it soon, never mind.
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  Posted on December 10, 2017 20:07
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Hey, as long as you aren't liars all the best to ye.
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